LOL....I used my 7mm STW shooting 120 BT's at 3600 for ground hogs and coyotes. The good thing is when I used it I didn't get half way back to the truck hauling those stinky butt dogs and finally dropping them. Pretty much blew half their chest away, and they did not donut and run away so I knew they were worth nothing. Gave it to my kid since he killed his first bull with it.