270 WSM - 170 gr EOL Berger load development

Raudy707

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I did see in earlier comments where the Weatherby was getting velocity in 3200+ range albeit is using a 28" rather long barrel. My rig is 7 lbs 15 oz with a 25" barrel and COAL is 3.012". I wanted a mountain rifle that was packable, somewhat compact and capable of hitting small targets at extended ranges. That's exactly what I got with the 270 WSM. Depending on your hunting style you can decide if the Weatherby with it's speed and nasty flat trajectory are a better fit for you. I will say that the WSM is no slouch at 3000 fps and I feel my set up is the best all around deer rifle a guy could ask for. I even use it on rugged elk hunts where I don't want to carry my long and heavy 300 win mag. A 270 wsm in this configuration with the 170 Berger at 3000 fps surpasses 95% of the rifles out there and is the ultimate deer, sheep, goat combination. Good luck in your build I'm sure you will enjoy the results with the Weatherby or WSM!
 

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I love this thread! Gave me some good insight. Im hope to get an LPA ti razor medium action for the 270 wsm and 170 gr berger. Hawkins builds bottom metal, and uses a wyatts box, spring, and follower that will handle a COAL of 3.2. I want to get a 22" HCA carbon killer 1:8 twist barrel (carbon wrapped benchmark blank). From my experience with a 22" barreled 6.5 SAUM with reloader 26. I think 3000 fps out of this barrel with reloader 26 is doable. I get 3000 fps out of my 6.5 saum with 57 grains of RL26. Based of my experience I think 3000 with a 170 berger out of a WSM case is doable with a barrel that short. I hope to build something that weighs 7.5 pounds with a scope. I will keep you all posted. Thanks for sharing your info and experience.
 

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i have been working up a load for my M70 270 WSM using the Berger 170gr EOL bullets and just wanted to give a quick report. We finally had a great calm day so I spent an afternoon seeing how the bullets would perform out to 2000 yards. I had previously identified an accurate load utilizing 67.2gr of Retumbo, bullet seated .015" off the lands (overall lengths 3.115"). This loads will just fit in the magazine with a little modification. The bullets are HBN coated with a muzzle velocity of 3050 fps fired through a 26" 1:8 twist barrel. As a terminal reference this load carries 1000 ft-lbs of energy at 1300 yards. I zeroed the load at 300 yards and ended up with 1.25" grouping. The Mark 4 sits atop a 30 MOA base allowing it to be dialed to 2000 yards. Using the shooter app for a starting point I identified/confirmed the following elevation adjustments: 3.1 mil @ 750 yards; 4.8 mil @ 955 yards; 7.1 mil @ 1200 yards; 19.6 mil @ 2000 yards. I confirmed these elevation adjustments with 2 consecutive hits on 18" steel plates at each of the above distances. I only took one shot at the 2000 yard plate but got the hit; didn't want to ruin a good afternoon with a miss at that point. Will need another calm afternoon to see how it will group at 1000 yards. I have yet to try the bullet on large game but it looks like the potential is there for those wanting to reach out with a .277. This turned out to be an amazingly consistent rifle/load.
What muzzle brake is that
 

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i have been working up a load for my M70 270 WSM using the Berger 170gr EOL bullets and just wanted to give a quick report. We finally had a great calm day so I spent an afternoon seeing how the bullets would perform out to 2000 yards. I had previously identified an accurate load utilizing 67.2gr of Retumbo, bullet seated .015" off the lands (overall lengths 3.115"). This loads will just fit in the magazine with a little modification. The bullets are HBN coated with a muzzle velocity of 3050 fps fired through a 26" 1:8 twist barrel. As a terminal reference this load carries 1000 ft-lbs of energy at 1300 yards. I zeroed the load at 300 yards and ended up with 1.25" grouping. The Mark 4 sits atop a 30 MOA base allowing it to be dialed to 2000 yards. Using the shooter app for a starting point I identified/confirmed the following elevation adjustments: 3.1 mil @ 750 yards; 4.8 mil @ 955 yards; 7.1 mil @ 1200 yards; 19.6 mil @ 2000 yards. I confirmed these elevation adjustments with 2 consecutive hits on 18" steel plates at each of the above distances. I only took one shot at the 2000 yard plate but got the hit; didn't want to ruin a good afternoon with a miss at that point. Will need another calm afternoon to see how it will group at 1000 yards. I have yet to try the bullet on large game but it looks like the potential is there for those wanting to reach out with a .277. This turned out to be an amazingly consistent rifle/load.
Sounds like your elevation is around 6000-6200' where your shooting. 2K is a poke with a 170 grain bullet.
 

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That post brings up some good memories. The 270 WSM was being fired at 3200 ft. That barrel had been retired for a year or so and I just put it back on a M70 WSM action my son-in-law had sitting around a couple of weeks ago. Loaded it with the same load but had to seat the 170 EOL about 1/8” deeper due to magazine constraints (I had modified the previous action/magazine). After sighting it in I asked my 10 y/o granddaughter if she wanted to take a few shots. This was her first time firing a magnum class rifle (with a muzzle brake). After getting it situated on the 300 yard target and taking a few dry fires she put her first two shots in a 2” bullseye so we dialed in the 1200 yard steel and she rang it (she didn’t know she was suppose to flinch). Still is a very accurate combination. I really don’t use the 2000 yard steel much since it takes too much time to check it. A month or so ago I took a couple of shots at the freshly painted 2000 yard target with my 25 CM and didn’t see any dust so figured it may have been in the rocks. Later that afternoon we drove past target and the two shots had hit the steel 3” apart. With the newer equipment and reloading components available it is not as hard as it used to be to reach out there. Mixed brass and a 4x weaver from my early years won’t get it but even my grandkids do well using sorted brass and heavies from a custom barrel looking through premium glass. Go figure
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It's not a matter of the bullet making the range. It's whether it makes it one target. 1500 yards vs 2000 yards may as well be another mile in wind. The 243 bullets can make the range, but when wind in present, you may never know where your bullets hit. If a guy has a 6'x6' steel plate, I think hitting steel if you know your rifle is very attainable. Just doping wind is mostly the biggest challenge.
 

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