270 Weatherby vs Winchester

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  1. Takem406

    Takem406 Well-Known Member

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    My grandpa left behind a mint German Mark V and a mint Pre64 in the previous States calibers. He left Weatherby brass and I'm a handloader. But I've heard the German 270 Weatherby rifles have a 1-12 twist. I'd like to run high BC bullets/elk through it. I've also heard the Weatherby is finicky to load for and not as accurate. Help?!
     
  2. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    Can't help you on the Wby, but if it were my Pre-64 .270 Win, I'd have the chamber opened to .270 Ackley Improved for bringing that ole Winny nearly up to Weatherby velocities, if it has a tighter twist, and using it for your elk rifle with the high-BC bullets.
     
  3. Takem406

    Takem406 Well-Known Member

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    Oh, you can gain a little with a by improving the 270? Now that's a horse of a difference story...
     
  4. Dosh

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    406, if you verify the .270 Wby twist with a cleaning rod you will know for sure. Then check various bullet manufacturers published twist data. Like the .270 AI option or a rebarrel of the Wby to 1:10. Good luck
     
  5. Takem406

    Takem406 Well-Known Member

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    Will do!
     

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  6. geo4061

    geo4061 Well-Known Member

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    WOW, That is one beautiful rifle. I will take it if you ever decide to sell.
     
  7. Dosh

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    406, I agree, that is an exceptional stock. A friend had an outstanding stock on his 300 Wby Mark V and replaced it with a B&C Medalist so his wife could hunt with it.
     
  8. Takem406

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    The Winchesters (yeah two pre64 270's mint) weren't as pretty but dang! I might luck out in the end... Or one of two Browning Safar Grade 243's...

    Yep! First thing before a scope even is a B&C Stock for that rifle. I see Stockys stocks (hahaha ok that was lame) one for the German Weatherby. I baby my stuff, but dang thats too pretty for hunting (for me).

    Now for some glass...
     
  9. Takem406

    Takem406 Well-Known Member

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    Here's a picture of one of the Winchester's. Also the Browning Safari 243 with the factory tag attached. We did end up with the Browning B78 in 22-250, that looks to be fun! Also a Sako Riihimaki 222!
    There was also that Winchester Model 54 I believe in 06 from 1927 lol. I love firearms history and the quality of the guns back then.
     
  10. geo4061

    geo4061 Well-Known Member

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    Kane use to make and still may be making Gun Chaps. They work great for protecting those beautiful Weatherby stocks.
     
  11. FEENIX

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    My .270 AI can push the 175 Matrix VLD pass 3000 FPS. gun)
     
  12. jfseaman

    jfseaman Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, the German 270 Weatherby's were usually 12 twist. Check it. If it is it will shoot 130 Accubonds well but not much else. Faster is better. If it is a later 10 twist it will do anything any other 10 twist 270 cal will, only faster.

    You have 2 very fine rifles. Both capable of much utility as well as beautility.

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    As for a 270AI going 3000 with a 175 Matrix: I can't find a .277 Matrix at 175 grains. There is a 165 Matrix VLD. Maybe Marshal can shed some light on this.lightbulb
     
  13. FEENIX

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    As I understand it, the 175s are only available for special bulk orders but not sure of what the minimum order is.
     
  14. marshal

    marshal Well-Known Member

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    Im not really sure what the min order is either:) When I had them in stock they sat for literally years before selling.
    Now that they are gone more people want them, human nature I suppose. However I may up the BC with a new die and bring them back out in the future.