26 Nosler Bullets?

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  1. KaSH0508

    KaSH0508 Member

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    I am helping out a friend and have a question. He purchased a new 26 Nosler and has been shooting the 140 Accubonds. So far he has shot an Antelope and a Mule deer with it. In all cases the bullets are exploding on impact. Recovered the Antelope which required 2 followup shots. All were good hits right behind or on the shoulder. When we cut him up it was very apparent what the bullets did, exploded upon impact and very little penetration. The Mule deer we searched for 8 hours and found very little blood then it just stopped. Tracked him over 2 miles then lost the track. What bullets work best at 26 Nosler speeds? I shoot them as well as the ELDs out of a Creedmoor at 2850 FPS and have always got complete pass throughs and never lost an animal. I know the Nosler is pushing them significantly faster, just looking for those with experience on what works best at those Nosler speeds.
    Thank you
    Chuck
     
  2. sable tireur

    sable tireur Well-Known Member

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    I think the easiest answer is the Hammer Hunter 137 gr. bullets. These are solids but designed for hunting especially at those higher velocities.
     
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  3. CUTTER1

    CUTTER1 Well-Known Member

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    I've had great luck with 140 Bergers.
    In a 6.5 PRC the 135 Burger Classic hunter at 3210fps was totally devastating at 245 yards
    The new 155 Berger should be out in January and if the throat in your gun is long enough with 8"twist......that will be the bullet that makes the
    26 Nosler
     
  4. tankgijohn72

    tankgijohn72 Well-Known Member

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    I have a 26 nosler and the only combo I could get consistent accuracy with was either a 127 LRX or 120 E-Tip over Retumbo. I had real issues with jacketed bullets, and wouldn't recommend them. Not even bonded. Tried 147 ELD (2.5"@ 100 with evidence of the jacket cracking. Helical lead patterns on target at 100), 135 berger (12" @100), 130 accubond (2-3" @100).

    I did have a very accurate load with the 140 sierra game king over RL33, but I had to slow it down to just over 3000fps to get the accuracy. Which to me defeats the purpose of the 26 nosler. The 127 is the way to go in my rifle. Shot a mulie a couple weeks ago at 700 yds with the 127 LRX at 3450MV. (consistently 0.7-1.0MOA @300 yds).
     
  5. 257Tony

    257Tony Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, can't say that I've ever seen that out of an accubond. Are you sure they aren't the 142 ABLR? I used to shoot 140's out of my 264 WM at 3175 and they were awesome on elk, break shoulders no problem, even at 100 yards.
     
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  6. gillettehunter

    gillettehunter Well-Known Member

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    I agree that sounds more like the ABLR. Please double check.
    Bruce
     
  7. KaSH0508

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    Thanks for all the replies, I spoke with him again and yes it is the 142 ABLRs.
     
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  8. 26Reload

    26Reload Well-Known Member

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    Well i have shot the lrab into animals...and been successful...twice with deer..twice with elk....142-6.5, 168-284...
    As told by nosler rep....not designed for high speed short range hunting...
    168 on elk was 560 yards....remains of found bullet 77gr...2950mv....
    142 on deer was 329 and 262yd...remains were 68 and 44gr...2950mv...
    Obviously they did the jobs or i wouldn't have recovered them....
    Remains of bullets did look like remains of partitions.....
    I will still use them for boiler room shooting.....
     
  9. MagnumManiac

    MagnumManiac Well-Known Member

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    I use both, the 140gr AB and 142gr ABLR out of my 264WM.
    Completely different terminal performance. The 140gr AB rarely stays inside an animal for me, unless it’s a frontal hit.
    The AB fails to expand around 1700fps IME and the ABLR expands as low as 1100fps.
    I also tested the 129gr ABLR and 130gr AB, the 129gr still expands as low as 900fps, the 130gr AB expanded at 1800fps but not below 1700fps.
    The ABLR is a 500yrd and beyond bullet, any closer and it WILL act like a bomb!

    Cheers.
     
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  10. RockyMtnMT

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    How far is your friend hunting? It was mentioned earlier in the thread to look at our 137g Hammer Hunter. This would be a great bullet for the 26n if it has a custom 7" twist barrel. If your friend is in the under 500y camp then he should look at our Sledge Hammer line of bullets. With the Sledge Hammers he can get up to 139g that will properly stabilize. If he is wanting to extend his hunting range beyond 500y then bc will make a difference and our 124g Hammer Hunter will be the ticket. This would be the heaviest bullet that was designed with bc in mind that will be properly stabilized in the factory 8" twist barrel.

    All of our bullets will have no trouble with the high launch speeds and short range high vel impacts. All of our bullets work properly down to a min tested impact vel of 1800fps.

    Steve
     
  11. gillettehunter

    gillettehunter Well-Known Member

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    The ABLR's are a lot more frangible. Do a search of the threads on here. You'll find plenty of info. In the .26 Nosler he probably is better off with the regular AB's or a mono metal bullet that can take the high speed close range hit.
    Bruce
     
  12. 26Reload

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    OP didnt give us range of shots so it's hard to say just why they blew up....but the speed a 26 nosler can generate is quite quick...and the front end of those bullets are soft....
    In making a bullet for my mzldr and comparing....the solid lead being soft and heavy...and the lead mixed with tin or whatever else being harder and lighter.......i would like to see the front end of lrab bullets hardened a bit....with today's rifle speeds it would be warranted....
     
  13. coop22250

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    I bought a 26 Nosler as an impulse and didn’t have time to reload. The LRAB were the only factory ammo in stock, so I bought the 142gr.

    We went over to Kodiak on a winter goat hunting trip in February, and long range was a possibility so that’s what I went with. I didn’t know anything about LRAB, thought they were just AB modified for better BC. Boy was I wrong.

    First shot at a goat at 350 broadside hit about right in the shoulder. He immediately turned and started uphill. If you have ever hunted goats that’s a bad sign, they always go downhill when hit. He entered some brush and I took a couple quartering away shots as he exited the brush, the shots were not perfect but I don’t stop shooting if I wound an animal. On the third shot he turned and started towards me at 425 yards and I put one right in his brisket and that did the job.

    Upon skinning, I found the first bullet had hit and exploded under the skin, did not even puncture the chest cavity. Shots 2-3 one was miss, one hit high and right on the top part of the shoulder blade and also failed to penetrate the chest cavity. Shot 4 entered about 1” off center of brisket and then exploded into the chest cavity, failing to penetrate past the diaphragm.

    To say I was unhappy was an understatement. The thoughts of what if I was pointing those bullets at a charging brown bear crossed my mind several time hiking back with packs full of bear bait.

    After I returned home I did some research and the found a cross section of the LRAB, and the hollow cavity just behind the tip, explaining the quick explosion.

    I decided at that point to load 140gr partitions and deal with the loss of BC, just in case I have to shoot a bear up close not if my choosing. I think LRAB would be much better in a slower round, hitting at low velocities. I’m thinking about a 6.5 Grendel for my young boy to shoot, and they would likely shine in that.

    I very easily could have lost a beautiful animal, and it was mostly my fault. More research before just buying ammo or bullets should have been done. My experience with regular AB has been better, but I figured partitions have a long track record, so I’d just stick with them. Heck I’m even loading 60gr partitions in my 223 now. They are ugly, but effective hahaha.
     
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  14. KaSH0508

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    Range on Antelope was 390 on the first shot, 434 on the 2nd and 440 on the third. Mule deer was 683 or there abouts can’t quite remember.