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<blockquote data-quote="jhw1st" data-source="post: 10200" data-attributes="member: 2306"><p>Hi fellow shooters. This is my first post so I hope I do good. I really like what I've been reading on this forum and am trying to understand the abbreviated terms I am seeing as most all of you are eons ahead of me as far as rifle knowledge is concerned. I have been hunting whitetails in Texas for over 30 years and have learned what is necessary to put venison in the freezer every year. I have always had a longing to reach out a little farther than my fellow hunters to be able to bag that elusive buck that never seems to come within anyones comfortable shooting range. I did a little research 2 years ago to see which calibers might shoot straight enough and far enough to take that elusive one. Also a rifle that will not punish an old man[59 yrs]. The Weatherby 257 Mag ballistics stats caught my eye but the word"magnum" made my shoulder flinch a bit. I decided to bite the bullet so to speak and found a beautiful Mark V stainless model on one of the web firearms auction sites. I bid what I thought a used Weatherby was worth and lo and behold wound up with a real bargain for such a quality rifle. It came with the weatherby composite stock and is USA made with a 26" bbl. I was pleasantly surprised with the recoil factor this gun delivers. My dilemna is this, and I hope some of you fellow shooters can enlighten me as far as what I can do to get broader results from this rig. Let me say that I did take four deer last season with this set-up but I can only get sub-moa groups from one cartridge and that is the Weatherby factory offering of the 117 gr round nose cartridge.</p><p>It is a devastating round on Texas deer but it is the round nose that limits it as far as taking a shot at 400+ yards. According to ballistic charts the bullet is really dropping at that range. The pointed bullet</p><p>cartridges that I bought for it in several weights and mfrs. could not come close in accuracy to the 117 gr round nose. The bullet coefficient for the round nose bullet just wont allow for the longer shots that I want to take, and thus nullifies my purpose of owning such a rig. I would like some input from you people who may have encountered similar situations yourselves. I am wondering if the rifle twist is adequate to stabilize the smaller grain wt. spire shaped bullets. I assume that the action was bedded [looks like it has] but not sure. I will check it again and also see if the barrel has been free-floated. I feel like this site was made for me as I tend to want to push the envelope a bit. There is a ton of knowledge here and I have been reading long before signing up today. Any thoughts,ideas or theories will be greatly apprec iated. "Ya gotta love it|"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jhw1st, post: 10200, member: 2306"] Hi fellow shooters. This is my first post so I hope I do good. I really like what I've been reading on this forum and am trying to understand the abbreviated terms I am seeing as most all of you are eons ahead of me as far as rifle knowledge is concerned. I have been hunting whitetails in Texas for over 30 years and have learned what is necessary to put venison in the freezer every year. I have always had a longing to reach out a little farther than my fellow hunters to be able to bag that elusive buck that never seems to come within anyones comfortable shooting range. I did a little research 2 years ago to see which calibers might shoot straight enough and far enough to take that elusive one. Also a rifle that will not punish an old man[59 yrs]. The Weatherby 257 Mag ballistics stats caught my eye but the word"magnum" made my shoulder flinch a bit. I decided to bite the bullet so to speak and found a beautiful Mark V stainless model on one of the web firearms auction sites. I bid what I thought a used Weatherby was worth and lo and behold wound up with a real bargain for such a quality rifle. It came with the weatherby composite stock and is USA made with a 26" bbl. I was pleasantly surprised with the recoil factor this gun delivers. My dilemna is this, and I hope some of you fellow shooters can enlighten me as far as what I can do to get broader results from this rig. Let me say that I did take four deer last season with this set-up but I can only get sub-moa groups from one cartridge and that is the Weatherby factory offering of the 117 gr round nose cartridge. It is a devastating round on Texas deer but it is the round nose that limits it as far as taking a shot at 400+ yards. According to ballistic charts the bullet is really dropping at that range. The pointed bullet cartridges that I bought for it in several weights and mfrs. could not come close in accuracy to the 117 gr round nose. The bullet coefficient for the round nose bullet just wont allow for the longer shots that I want to take, and thus nullifies my purpose of owning such a rig. I would like some input from you people who may have encountered similar situations yourselves. I am wondering if the rifle twist is adequate to stabilize the smaller grain wt. spire shaped bullets. I assume that the action was bedded [looks like it has] but not sure. I will check it again and also see if the barrel has been free-floated. I feel like this site was made for me as I tend to want to push the envelope a bit. There is a ton of knowledge here and I have been reading long before signing up today. Any thoughts,ideas or theories will be greatly apprec iated. "Ya gotta love it|" [/QUOTE]
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