25-06 vs 257 wby

[Montana'eer]

Coming in after all these pages of advice, my $0.02, started with a 257AI in '87, loaded Speer 120 BT and took many coyotes, muleys, whitetails, and antelope. Rechambered it to 2506 in '15, have it dialed in with 120 Partitions at 3022 FPS. Not really super sexy but nothing has walked away. When I shoot this barrel out I'll probably look at the the AI version, keeping the same bolt face .

Love my Ackley.

This rifle stays with me when I'm working around the yard or in the shop for varmint duty.

They're fun to shoot and they don't beat the snail snot out of you. I've taken more deer than I can count with either a .257 Bob or its Ackley variant. Now I'm in a conundrum- I just bought a super nice late 70's Rem BDL varmint in .25-06. The original fancy stock was removed when new, stored and never carried. It's got a laminate on it now. I couldn't pass on the price... Here's the photo prior to being shipped. Should get this next week.

I hope I don't forget my Bob.....

I've never fired a .257Wby, but I can say I have an affinity for the quarter bores.

 

[Quintus]

Of those three twists and wanting to shoot 135's at some point, there is only one right answer for me. And that answer is a 7 twist. Why hamstring yourself with the slower twist????

Heavy bullets are great, but the 10 twist and bullets under 130 grains are amazing in the 257 Bee. That is what sets it apart. Sheer speed to beat wind as far as mirage and wind will let you shoot. I would be curious to see at what distance the 135 Bergers BC evens things out with the 110 Accubonds, or 100 grain Sciroccos Velocity from a drop and drift standpoint. I'm not saying there is no advantage to long heavies, just that the Bee as a pure hunting cartridge won't be hamstrung with a 10 twist until you get past 600 yards.

 

[stovepipe]

Quintis. I agree with you, the traits you mentioned are the very one's that always look most attractive about the bee

 

[Panhandle Pete]

I'm for 25 caliber anything as long as it doesn't end in Needmoor

Ditto Brother Bean, I have several of each of these calibers in 250 Savage- aka 250-3000, 250-3000 AI, 257 Roberts, 257 Roberts AI, 25-06, 257 Weatherby. The one that gets the most use is the 250-3000 AI, Sierra uses it for accuracy tests with their 25 cal bullets and I see why, mine are all smokin hot on the accuracy. You cannot go wrong with the Quarter Bore guns.

 

[Louis3300]

25-06 with 115gr. Nosler BT's is a hammer. I have taken everything including elk with that load.

 

[sp6x6]

the 257 Roy will put a smile on your face

 

[Canhunter35]

I've used both, hands down 257wby.

 

[65x55Shooter]

I have my heart set on a 25 cal with a nice wood stock - don't have a 25 or a nice wood stocked rifle. This rifle would be primarily for whitetail and pronghorn hunting.

I am planning on using norma brass, 120gr nosler partitions or 110gr nosler accubonds. I have components and dies for both calibers, just trying to decide which route to go at this point.

Attached are screenshots from nosler's reloading data for each caliber for a quick comparison of expectations from a velocity standpoint.

- I have heard from several guys that Retumbo and VV N560 narrow the gap between the 2, but don't have any personal experience to back that claim up.

Assuming same barrel lengths 24" or 26" and identical components - which caliber would you choose?

I have loved my 25 cal rifles, 257 Roberts and then a 25-284 win with a 26" barrel. Given your chosen cartridges, I'd opt for the 25-06…Weatherby brass is very dear and the advantage isn't that great. I can tell you for sure that the whitetail/muley or antelope won't notice the difference.

 

[FEENIX]

Question for Feenix, with your 1:7 would you still be able to shoot a 110 accubond or are you "limited" to 117-135+? I know your goal was to shoot those heavier/longer bullets so you're not limiting yourself at all, I'm just curious if that option is available to still shoot 110s

I do not have hands-on experience with it yet as I still have 5 weeks of wait time for my barrel. However, I have hands-on experience shooting 140s/150s (designed for 1:10") on my .270 AI with 1:8" without any issues.

I plan on using 100g to sight in and break in my barrel.

My best WAG is that I should be able to shoot the 110 NAB. Looking at my Nosler 6, G1=.418, 71g IMR 7828 propels the 110 NAB at 3480 FPS out of 26" 1:10".

The 110 NAB is optimized with 1:7".

 

[Canhunter35]

I do not have hands-on experience with it yet as I still have 5 weeks of wait time for my barrel. However, I have hands-on experience shooting 140s/150s (designed for 1:10") on my .270 AI with 1:8" without any issues.

I plan on using 100g to site and break in my barrel.

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My WAG is that I should be able to shoot the 110 NAB. Looking at my Nosler 6, G1=.418, 71g IMR 7828 propels the 110 NAB at 3480 FPS out of 26" 1:10".

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The 110 NAB is optimized with 1:7".

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67.5 of 7828 was extremely accurate in my 257, but that was one of the first rifles I loaded for and never went beyond to find the next node, I'm sure there was one. 7828 is a great powder in weatherbys, very accurate

 

[patrickjr]

I do not have hands-on experience with it yet as I still have 5 weeks of wait time for my barrel. However, I have hands-on experience shooting 140s/150s (designed for 1:10") on my .270 AI with 1:8" without any issues.

I plan on using 100g to sight in and break in my barrel.

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My best WAG is that I should be able to shoot the 110 NAB. Looking at my Nosler 6, G1=.418, 71g IMR 7828 propels the 110 NAB at 3480 FPS out of 26" 1:10".

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The 110 NAB is optimized with 1:7".

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Wow, thank you! Guess I know what twist my next 257 barrel will have!

 

[arch408]

25-06AI

 

[Mike Matteson]

25/06 a great deer and antelope rifle. I would turn up the twist and go to a AI chambering. All types of brass that can be sized and fire formed to go with it. A little less powder too. Powder is a big thing now days.

 

[koonazz]

25/06= family sedan. Practical, good fuel milrage easy on the tires, family car.
257 Bee=Lamborghini. Expensive to drive but holy ****