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200 Gameking vs 210 Berger
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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 331569" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>There is a lot of discussion and debate about this subject. The Berger seems to be a very effective bullet most of the time, but I've read some reports of non-expansion or little to no penetration due to under expansion. Another issue for me is bloodshot meat. I eat my game and butcher it myself. The VLD's tend to ruin a lot more meat from what I've read and heard. My philosophy is not to use them at close range if I use them at all.</p><p> </p><p>Right now, my go to load is 180 E-tips with an MV of 3400 fps. At an elevation of 5000', the E-Tips get to just under 1100 yds with 1800 fps velocity which is their minimum expansion velocity. At 3150 fps the 210 Bergers get about 50 yds farther with a little more enrgy/momentum.</p><p> </p><p>The E-Tips are shooting very well and I dont see a need to use the 210's for the more extreme ranges, because I dont see a big benefit. After recovering an E-Tip in the dirt from target shooting, I am very impressed with what I see. It will put a major hurting on what ever it hits.</p><p> </p><p>Having said that, I do have some of the thick jacketed 210 VLD loaded and will give them a try at ranges inside 500 yds on a cow elk if I get the chance. This is based on the fact that the thick jacket VLDs tapper down in thickness to the meplat and should proved expansion. I am very interested in seeing their performance.</p><p> </p><p>In the LR game, I look for well performing, relatively high BC bullets which include E-Tips and AB's.</p><p> </p><p>Just my $.03 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 331569, member: 11717"] There is a lot of discussion and debate about this subject. The Berger seems to be a very effective bullet most of the time, but I've read some reports of non-expansion or little to no penetration due to under expansion. Another issue for me is bloodshot meat. I eat my game and butcher it myself. The VLD's tend to ruin a lot more meat from what I've read and heard. My philosophy is not to use them at close range if I use them at all. Right now, my go to load is 180 E-tips with an MV of 3400 fps. At an elevation of 5000', the E-Tips get to just under 1100 yds with 1800 fps velocity which is their minimum expansion velocity. At 3150 fps the 210 Bergers get about 50 yds farther with a little more enrgy/momentum. The E-Tips are shooting very well and I dont see a need to use the 210's for the more extreme ranges, because I dont see a big benefit. After recovering an E-Tip in the dirt from target shooting, I am very impressed with what I see. It will put a major hurting on what ever it hits. Having said that, I do have some of the thick jacketed 210 VLD loaded and will give them a try at ranges inside 500 yds on a cow elk if I get the chance. This is based on the fact that the thick jacket VLDs tapper down in thickness to the meplat and should proved expansion. I am very interested in seeing their performance. In the LR game, I look for well performing, relatively high BC bullets which include E-Tips and AB's. Just my $.03 :) Mark [/QUOTE]
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