My only experience is with 8x binos and see the need for a higher magnification top quality tripod bino, I always wanting to see the details on the next ridge over! The 8x just can't do it. The 12x50 Euros are on sale now at 799, I will be using these in the Southwest US on deer, antelope and elk hunts. I am a little reluctant to go with a 12x as the magnification might be too low. I will be using these in the Southwest US on deer, antelope and elk hunts.