jasent
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Moa is finer and mil is faster. Most can’t shoot the difference
Well I got trained in MILs by the green machine and I’m good at it so I use it. Do you conver inches to MOA? It’s the same math, very simple math. MIL or MOA it’s just an angle to start your math with, doesn’t matter a whole lot which one.Yes, but most ranges in the USA are set up in yards, so you have more complex math making the necessary corrections. Using you mil scope is like setting your car's speedometer to Km/Hr and trying to do the math on the commute home each day.
When using the reticle to range for hunting, do you first convert the animal's measurement to cm or do you make the conversion later when trying to dial in the shot?
Must have been a Homer Simpson moment for you?He proved to me: the 1" we all use as a standard is really @ 95.5 yards, not 100 yards.
And if we shoot at 100 yards, it's slightly over an inch.
..... and going out to 1000 yards is where it starts to show..
If you are shooting a target at a range, then Yes the spotter can say x inches left and x inches low.I read the article, the error he makes is in the setup for the question.
He gives the target measurement in inches rather than mils. The spotter likewise gives a correction in inches...another mistake.
(You gonna tell me that the spotter has eyeballs calibrated well enough to count inches at 600 yards?).
How are you going to adjust 7” right at 669 yards or 10” at 955 yards?If you are shooting a target at a range, then Yes the spotter can say x inches left and x inches low.
If hunting, the experienced hunter uses the standard values for a deer's body. Same with an elk.
I agree with you 100% on your other points. But how many guides and hunting spotters give corrections in Mils?
Or range adjustments in Mils? In the US, is the guide more likely to say the animal is 540 yards or 500 meters?
Yep, MIL are MOA by another name and unit of measure. Has more to do with reticles available than anything. Any ballistic calculator can spit out numbers however you want using MPH Wind, yards distance, MIL elevation and MOA windage corrections if you want. All about what you are comfortable with and how you’ll communicate the data if needed.You can use mils with yards.... The only reason to use meters is reticle ranging, an outfitter isnt going to range with a reticle.
Lack of sleep Gwine?Anything you can do I can do better, anything I can do better than you... No you can’t. Yes I can.
You made my point.If you are shooting a target at a range, then Yes the spotter can say x inches left and x inches low.
If hunting, the experienced hunter uses the standard values for a deer's body. Same with an elk.
I agree with you 100% on your other points. But how many guides and hunting spotters give corrections in Mils?
Or range adjustments in Mils? In the US, is the guide more likely to say the animal is 540 yards or 500 meters?
So, not only does your spotter have to do moa or mil math...now he has to do an additional calculation to tell you how many "clicks" at a particular distance?... have your spotter (or your ballistic calculator/app) talk to you in "clicks" and there is no need for "converting"
This is not a stab at you, but I think there is a lot of ignorance about capabilities for spotters using modern reticle pasterns. Aside from the ballistic calculation, if that's not done with an app/calculator, there isn't really math. Call the correction and the shooter can hold or make the adjustment. Shooter/spotter need to decide ahead of time if they want to communicate the correction or clicks, correction makes a lot more sense because that gives the shooter power of choice to hold (faster) or adjust (maybe more accurate, maybe not).So, not only does your spotter have to do moa or mil math...now he has to do an additional calculation to tell you how many "clicks" at a particular distance?