#1 best tip for new shooters trying to get into the long range game!

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by nt7332, Nov 9, 2019.


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  1. Michael Cantor

    Michael Cantor Well-Known Member

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    Nt7332? Thats a 10 shot 100 yard group from a 300 Norma? Is that a bench gun? Cuz thats impressive and you should have a world championship group at 1000!

    I disagree with those who recommend a 308 as a starter rifle for long range. Thats a waste of money and time. I hate to recommend the creedmore, but if you reload thats fine for paper out to 1000. If you want to knock s&%t over a 300 win mag or 7mm mag is better. Depends on the "game", paper or game! I still like a 6mm, 243 for varmints to deer or maybe bigger as an all around gun. If you know your distance to the target, Any reasonable cartridge (with enough energy at the intended distance) will work. If you dont know the distance, well, speed kills!
     
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  2. nt7332

    nt7332 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it might as well be. It’s a gap built 300 Norma on a surgeon xl. She is about 20 lbs scoped so pretty much a bench gun lol. It just shoots man.
     
  3. jarnold37

    jarnold37 Well-Known Member

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    My confidence was boosted when I got a (good) scope with target turrets and then purchased a Sierra ballistic program and started dialing in for each yardage. I quickly realized the need for a very good rangefinder with tight beam divergence. So, summed up in one tip: Good scope, good rangefinder and a ballistic program. I think that would get you in the game so to speak
     
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  4. robert l

    robert l Well-Known Member

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    I have hearing gun weight for along time lighter lighter.If it weighs m0re than 8 lbs its to heavy.My long range set up weighs 15 lbs and change and i tote that thing 10 miles in and out with my pack with no problem.Now im a big boy but i have been in good enough shape that its not a problem.So my point is this talk about man buns skinny jeans must be true. Because if you consider your self as a man. Carrying twenty pounds should not be a issue.
     
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  5. Tangent

    Tangent Well-Known Member

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    My best advice to a new shooter:
    Don't chase gear, special cartridges, magic loads, shortcuts, or tricks. Spend your money on ammo and your time at the range. Because the only way to get good at long range shooting is to shoot long range.
     
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  6. Orange Dust

    Orange Dust Well-Known Member

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    Good advise, wish I was smart enough to follow it. I have enough clothes and gear to outfit a small army. My wife swears I don't know how many guns and sets of dies I own. She is wrong about the guns.... Not the dies. Many of them are for wildcats I no longer own. Quite an investment, and literally worthless.
     
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  7. tooth doc

    tooth doc Well-Known Member

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    I would say the
    Fundamentals are all a go! Nice shooting!
     
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  8. eric1115

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    I struggle with how to articulate this, but when it's time to pull the trigger, commit to the shot. Confidence is super important, and it seems like I start missing when I am still wishy-washy on my wind call when I pull the trigger.

    At this point I would say that being a half minute off on my wind and focusing hard on my trigger pull yields better results than trying to split my attention between trigger pull and last minute wind adjustments.

    Obviously improving that wind call is important, but for me where I am at I feel like once that trigger press starts I need to be completely focused on trigger and sight picture.
     
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  9. eric1115

    eric1115 Active Member

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    Also, the bullet doesn't lie. You clearly have the ability to hold steady and shoot good groups and be consistent. Developing good follows through and being able to spot your impacts will go a long way toward helping you make corrections.

    There's a fine line between being a spaz and chasing your tail, versus being stubborn and refusing to make the correction that the bullet is showing you it wants.

    If you put two shots just under the target, hold higher. That said, I have had targets where I've missed low left then high right then low left again chasing my corrections. Sometimes the bullet is telling you to slow down, get focused, and apply the fundamentals.
     
  10. nt7332

    nt7332 Well-Known Member

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    Well glad it works for u. And yes I can carry a 20 lb rifle also all over the mountains but why? The problem comes when hunting big mountains solo and getting game and that rifle back out. Lots can do it but many are smart enough not to.
     
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  11. lancetkenyon

    lancetkenyon Well-Known Member

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    Practice. A lot.
     
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  12. Alex Wheeler

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    Practice standing shots. Not because you will have to take them, but because its how you learn trigger control. No one can hold a rifle still standing so you try to form a consistent weave pattern and break the shot as your coming into the target. You will have to do this in real hunting situations off of your bipod because in many cases you cant get that perfect prone position out in the field. For me, my experience shooting service rifle in the standing position has done more for my hunting shots than anything else. I feel like if more hunters understood trigger control and how to time the breaking of the shot, then we wouldnt have the large amount of wounded game that we do.
     
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  13. Kimber7man

    Kimber7man Well-Known Member LRH Team Member

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    you have only yourself to keep happy.
     
  14. palerider3

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    Something I wish that I had learned earlier was that I could learn to follow trace better by using a rimfire training rifle. Put good glass on your 22 and start shooting at 150-200 yards with it. Then make sure you are watching the bullet fly to the target. It's really easy to follow trace with a 22. You can get your eye practiced to seeing bullet trace so that it will be second nature with your centerfire rifle.