Hi Wayne....I've been really bust with work so haven't done a lot of shooting lately but hope to change that before long. My friend finally did come over last weekend and we got to check out a couple of loads. We worked up to max so he would have a better idea of where to go with various powders/loads. The top velocity load was with 63 grains of RL-22 at just over 3100'. H1000 shows some promise at over 3000'. H414 also looked pretty good at 3050'........Rich