Cartridges That Need to be Revamped or Revived

I just built a 338 federal the 175 hammer at 2800 with benchmark but ran out of case capacity. its a slick round with some good potential, and hammered this years bear.

Remington saum line with updated barrel twists and factory ammo. Same for the 260 rem. Most that needs to be revived are the ones Remington abandoned and were marketed terribly.

Elkeater said:

I've always wanted 7x57. Never thought about the ai version. I'll bet that would scoot a 168 Berger along pretty nicely.

Other cartridges I'd add to the list would be the .22-250. Needs a fast twist barrel instead of a 14 twist. Would like to be able to shoot 70 gr Barnes or 64gr hammers. Makes it a versatile rifle for everything up to deer.

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I think a lot of use are intrigued by the 7x57….something about that round just gets me excited. It's got a lot of history behind it and we all know how great the 7mm-08 is, with a little more oomph that you could get with a turbocharged 7x57 that just might be the perfectly balanced cartridge we are looking for.

twister said:

I just built a 338 federal the 175 hammer at 2800 with benchmark but ran out of case capacity. its a slick round with some good potential, and hammered this years bear.

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I feel like this round would be such a devastating big bruiser buck round at 200 and under yards loaded up with 180-200 grain bullets. It seems like it would be a great moose round as well and not leave your shoulder feeling like it was jackhammered all day.

IHFarmer07 said:

Remington saum line with updated barrel twists and factory ammo. Same for the 260 rem. Most that needs to be revived are the ones Remington abandoned and were marketed terribly.

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Remington could find the fountain of youth and manage to mis-market it somehow and have to abandon it.

jbronner13 said:

I feel like this round would be such a devastating big bruiser buck round at 200 and under yards loaded up with 180-200 grain bullets. It seems like it would be a great moose round as well and not leave your shoulder feeling like it was jackhammered all day.

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flattened the bear it was 255. id have no problem shooting anything with it as a short range thumper with the coppers excellent penetration/exit and destroyed the vitals

jbronner13 said:

There is always chatter on the boards about cartridges that are dying and don't deserve to or ones that aren't being used to their full potential, lots of activity discussing that old fogey 270 Winchester recently thanks to the sexy new 6.8 Western. I figured we should start a thread where we can talk about the issue and maybe some of the handloaders here can do some tinkering to give these dead or dying cartridges a new lease on life. What are some of the cartridges out there that you all think have potential and should be much more popular and prevalent than they are today? What is holding these cartridges back and how do we fix the issues? Here are a few I think could use a little love and attention:

1) 350 Remington Magnum
2) 8mm Remington Magnum
3) 284 Winchester
4) 6.5x55 SE
5) 6.5-06 A- Square
6) 338 Federal

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I pretty much stick to the old standby's 243, 270, 308, 30-06 and 300 WM. The one cartridge I used to shoot and really liked was the 300 H&H which has pretty much fallen by the wayside with the 300 WM taking it's place. The 300 H&H was a very good 1000 yard round way back when. Trying to find a rifle chambered for the 300 H&H is pretty much impossible as is finding ammo. Anyone else out there like the 300 H&H

jbronner13 said:

There is always chatter on the boards about cartridges that are dying and don't deserve to or ones that aren't being used to their full potential, lots of activity discussing that old fogey 270 Winchester recently thanks to the sexy new 6.8 Western. I figured we should start a thread where we can talk about the issue and maybe some of the handloaders here can do some tinkering to give these dead or dying cartridges a new lease on life. What are some of the cartridges out there that you all think have potential and should be much more popular and prevalent than they are today? What is holding these cartridges back and how do we fix the issues? Here are a few I think could use a little love and attention:

1) 350 Remington Magnum
2) 8mm Remington Magnum
3) 284 Winchester
4) 6.5x55 SE
5) 6.5-06 A- Square
6) 338 Federal

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6mm Rem

twister said:

flattened the bear it was 255. id have no problem shooting anything with it as a short range thumper with the coppers excellent penetration/exit and destroyed the vitals

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And yet I believe one manufacturer is making ammo for it….

Teri Anne said:

I pretty much stick to the old standby's 243, 270, 308, 30-06 and 300 WM. The one cartridge I used to shoot and really liked was the 300 H&H which has pretty much fallen by the wayside with the 300 WM taking it's place. The 300 H&H was a very good 1000 yard round way back when. Trying to find a rifle chambered for the 300 H&H is pretty much impossible as is finding ammo. Anyone else out there like the 300 H&H

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I like any and all metal pushed by gunpowder! Some I just like better than others

I'm liking all the 8mm Rem Mag talk. It was my favorite caliber I never owned as a teen. I also know the 325 WSM was HS Precision's favorite cartridge in the WSM family to build in the custom shop five or so years ago.

jbronner13 said:

I like any and all metal pushed by gunpowder! Some I just like better than others

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Teri Anne said:

I pretty much stick to the old standby's 243, 270, 308, 30-06 and 300 WM. The one cartridge I used to shoot and really liked was the 300 H&H which has pretty much fallen by the wayside with the 300 WM taking it's place. The 300 H&H was a very good 1000 yard round way back when. Trying to find a rifle chambered for the 300 H&H is pretty much impossible as is finding ammo. Anyone else out there like the 300 H&H

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I have no experience with the 300 H&H but have heard wonderful things about the cartridge. Other 30's I have heard great things about are the 300 Weatherby Mag and the 300 RCM, 30 Nosler. If I were to hunt out west and draw an elk tag I'd probably gravitate to one of these if the distances were stretched past 300 yards. Where and what I hunt here in the northeast (Whitetail, Black Bear, Rabbit, Squirrel and Upland Birds), a 30 mag or even a 7mm mag isn't really necessary. Your standard 30-06, 308 Winchester and even flex tipped 30-30's/35 Remingtons are the most you will need on bigger game(I see the 338 Federal though as something that would be of great use on larger black bears and moose). For the other game a 20 gauge and a 22LR are the go to's. Some states here have pretty restrictive firearms have bring laws. I live on the border with Massachusetts and they allow very limited firearms hunting, shotgun and muzzleloaders only, but a lot of people simply don't hunt down there so if you get a nice rifled slug gun or a slick muzzleloader you can have my deer with no competition and the muzzleloader season runs till Dec 31st!

I have no experience with the 300 H&H but have heard wonderful things about the cartridge. Other 30's I have heard great things about are the 300 Weatherby Mag and the 300 RCM, 30 Nosler. If I were to hunt out west and draw an elk tag I'd probably gravitate to one of these if the distances were stretched past 300 yards. Where and what I hunt here in the northeast (Whitetail, Black Bear, Rabbit, Squirrel and Upland Birds), a 30 mag or even a 7mm mag isn't really necessary. Your standard 30-06, 308 Winchester and even flex tipped 30-30's/35 Remingtons are the most you will need on bigger game(I see the 338 Federal though as something that would be of great use on larger black bears and moose). For the other game a 20 gauge and a 22LR are the go to's. Some states here have pretty restrictive firearms hunting laws. I live on the border with Massachusetts and they allow very limited firearms hunting, shotgun and muzzleloaders only, but a lot of people simply don't hunt down there so if you get a nice rifled slug gun or a slick muzzleloader you can hunt deer with no competition and the muzzleloader season runs till Dec 31st!

Hornady did improve the 270. The 270/140gr SST/Superformance ammo is awesome. from a standard cartridge you get 140grain bullet with decent BC and terminal performance on deer going 3100 fps.