If you're shooting cement walls or logs, yeah, you're gonna have arrow failure. Not a dang thing wrong with the HIT system. I've shot fmj's ever since they came out, and the only time I've ruined one was when I hit something like a rock or cement wall, or something else really hard. Never had an arrow failure when shooting any animals. You're blowing smoke up a dead horse's butt.
Successful harvest after an arrow failure.
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hawg chaser
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Nope, I'm not shooting cement walls or logs only targets and animals. You can go to any archery forum and find scores of other people who have had the same experience with fmj's as I have. Facts are facts whether you like it or not.
I've never had one fail when shot at a game animal. Never. No wait. I did. I shot a doe in the hip as she stepped forward, and she reached around and crunched the arrow with her teeth. I submit that any carbon arrow would suffer the same demise. Perhaps you should use the right spines arrow for the poundage and game your shooting at. More than likely, any fmj that was damaged, was damaged by operator headspace out of adjustment. Heck, I've been shooting a bow for 50 years, I dont need to go to a forum and read about what wrong with the arrows I shoot when I've never had one fail unless I fail as the shooter.
Yep. Guilty.
Hawg Chaser, I use ACC,very similar and son uses as well as many friends FMJ's.Ive shot right threw large B&C bear shoulder blade,and son threw elk shoulder blade right on the rib up of blade.Dead animals.Any smart archer watches and spins his arrows .My friend Dyrk Eddie took I think all of his super slam with ACC.
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As all who shoot carbon arrows should know, it is a advised from most manufacturers I know of as a must do to slightly test bend your carbon arrows before and after every shot once they are retrieved from the target especially if it is a hard foam target to check if any cracks have developed that may cause a failure in the arrow either once it hits the target or FAR worse during the release sequence and a length ends up in your hand, wrist or arm.
As a rule when it comes to choosing spine of a carbon arrow ALWAYS go stiffer spined if near the max for any class of arrow.
As a rule when it comes to choosing spine of a carbon arrow ALWAYS go stiffer spined if near the max for any class of arrow.
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MZmoose
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I would say you haven't shot the hit inserts enough then. It's a weak system that I have had fail with bone strikes on game. There are better systems out there.
MZmoose
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To the OP I have no personal experience with the Maxima's but if they are the ones with the dual spine technology, I have heard they tend to fail where the spine changes. I hear they shoot great but when they break it's at the spine changes. Glad you're not hurt.
I'm thinking with your 30" draw and guessing that thats a newer Mathews with a similar IBO to mine....that said you should probably be shooting 250 spine arrows with your draw length. none of my business.....
Sounds like a knock failure. microscopic cracks around the nock are easy to miss. It happens when you shoot groups into a target. Then one day.... the back of your arrow blows up after the shaft has had enough stress.
Sounds like a knock failure. microscopic cracks around the nock are easy to miss. It happens when you shoot groups into a target. Then one day.... the back of your arrow blows up after the shaft has had enough stress.
Lovellr653
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Light arrow spine seems to be the general consensus, I'll be getting new arrows this year for sure.
Muddyboots
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One of the overlooked aspects of shooting light spine arrows is the effect of hard oscillation of the shaft during each shot over time. This phenomenon can weaken an arrow shaft without you even knowing it. Constant pounding into the newer more dense 3D targets can add to the material stress as well. Flexing an arrow will only provide catastrophic indicator of failure if the arrow actually has obvious defect. Hard cams, low brace height bows can add to the stress of an arrow.
Virtually every bow that I have helped someone out on that wasn't shooting worth a darn, was due to too light of spine on an arrow. These bows not only became accurate but also considerably quieter with stiffer spined arrow. You can find stiffer spine arrows that can still provide reasonable speed based upon their gr/in. If you choose to shoot fixed blade broadheads, stiffer spine will be your ticket to success as well.
As for the HIT system, my son shoots FMJ and shoots right through shoulder blade without failure of the arrow. We found out the insert adhesive was most critical aspect of this system.
Virtually every bow that I have helped someone out on that wasn't shooting worth a darn, was due to too light of spine on an arrow. These bows not only became accurate but also considerably quieter with stiffer spined arrow. You can find stiffer spine arrows that can still provide reasonable speed based upon their gr/in. If you choose to shoot fixed blade broadheads, stiffer spine will be your ticket to success as well.
As for the HIT system, my son shoots FMJ and shoots right through shoulder blade without failure of the arrow. We found out the insert adhesive was most critical aspect of this system.
I'm looking at the day six 275's. If the Temps stay as warm as they have been I might start shooting early this season. I guess they have a thicker wall than normal, and seem to hold up better than most. I've shot a lot of different arrows over the years, VAP TKO, a few gold tips....screamin Beamans etc. It seems that when you lose confidence in any portion of your rig you see it play out in missed shots or wounded animals.
