Then keep at it. I will keep not lapping and my lapping bar from 20 years ago just sits in the corner. I have scopes I mounted years ago and I have moved them around to 5 or 6 different rifles and never an issue. Been using the Seekins rings since 2005 and never lapped a set.
Can I reuse lapped rings on new gun and scope
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Do what you want, edit...but I would slap them on the new rifle mount the scope and let er rip chip. I have always used basic rings and if I spend 50-60 for base and rings that is a lot. My favorite is the standard Leupold rings. Never lapped one single set of rings in 45 years, and never had a problem with rings and scopes. I have had crooked actions and it shows up instantly as soon as I mount a scope either before I tighten ring caps or as soon as I put the bore sight in the barrel. So weird how I have been so "lucky" and what did I do for 40 years before I got one of those "must have" fancy "torque" wrenches that I torque well over the new internet specs. Old stubborn fart I am and I know it.
gohring3006
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Lol I know what you mean about the torque wrench. I only started using one because I didn't want to get kicked out of the club.
I actually bought one just to prove to a internet wizard it wouldn't matter. Nope he could not tell me what rings and or bases were torqued or just tightened with a driver when he took them apart. Within a couple rigs of using the "spec" torque I had scopes spinning and loose bases. If it calls for 20 inch pounds...I go 25-30 minimum.
gohring3006
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I'm really going to make some heads spin.
Blue lock tite!
I do this to all my rifles and torque to spec.
Clean all parts and I never had a scope move ever. If I ever remove the scope from the rings, 5 minutes per side with rubbing alcohol and you'll never know I did it.
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Abso freaking lutely!! I use a little drop of rubber cement...same dang thing....just was shown to use that by my dad. Silicone will be my next scope....oh this week when the 40 Talleys not lapped show up to hold the 150 Diamondback on my buddies new coyote gun. Edit.... I'm guessing you use evil motor oil and axle grease instead of stupid expensive gun oil and gun grease?
gohring3006
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That's blue lock tite. Lol
Works very well.
Still basically the same.
Same principle anyway..
I have nightforce rail and rings .nightforce say use there rail and rings no need to lap.
I also have set of ATRS rings and rail and they say the same thing.
I reversed the alignment bars and put a scope ring on one bar tighten them up.
The ring would not pass from one bar to the other.
Took out the two pieces and put in lapping bar.tighten back ring base to rail kept front base loose.
Then tighten rings and then tighten front base. remove lapping bar and replace alignment bars with ring.
Tighten alignment bars and still ring will not pass from one bar to other without lots of pressure pushing bars together.
Did this with both sets same results.
The nightforce was a little easier to pass the ring.
I then pulled out my custom long action with built in rail .did same test and got same results.
The ring would not pass without lots of pressure.
This stuff buy good rings and rails and you won't need to lap .
Well these ring are nightforce and ATRS Over $350 for each set.
I order a 1 piece mount .will try same test when it arrives in a week or so.
looks like I will be lapping for christmas
I also have set of ATRS rings and rail and they say the same thing.
I reversed the alignment bars and put a scope ring on one bar tighten them up.
The ring would not pass from one bar to the other.
Took out the two pieces and put in lapping bar.tighten back ring base to rail kept front base loose.
Then tighten rings and then tighten front base. remove lapping bar and replace alignment bars with ring.
Tighten alignment bars and still ring will not pass from one bar to other without lots of pressure pushing bars together.
Did this with both sets same results.
The nightforce was a little easier to pass the ring.
I then pulled out my custom long action with built in rail .did same test and got same results.
The ring would not pass without lots of pressure.
This stuff buy good rings and rails and you won't need to lap .
Well these ring are nightforce and ATRS Over $350 for each set.
I order a 1 piece mount .will try same test when it arrives in a week or so.
looks like I will be lapping for christmas
ntsqd
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I spent nearly a decade working behind the counter and have mounted I really don't know how many scopes. I'll be conservative and guess 500 of them. In those days we used Burris nearly exclusively. I definitely saw some that should have been lapped, but weren't because in those days we didn't know to do that.
It's the typical deal, one bad experience negates all of the positive ones. Can not assume that just because you've never lapped or bedded a scope that you never will need to do so.
It's the typical deal, one bad experience negates all of the positive ones. Can not assume that just because you've never lapped or bedded a scope that you never will need to do so.
One bad does not negate anything. Lap if you like but don't try and sell me that it's a needed thing. Mounted more than my fair share of scopes on many rifles and been doing it a while also. So you want to do it then have at it but I won't. Want to buy a lapping bar cheap? Lol
Did you bed the base? I'm guessing no. Factory actions can be off and that is a major issue. Bedding the base to the receiver takes out the bad machining. Then you are mounting the rings to a true base.
gohring3006
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How long have you been shooting your custom action with all the scope error?
ntsqd
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The scientific method says that one bad one means that the "rule" that you don't need to lap any, fails.
Whether it is needed or not is determined by lapping *just* enough to see what the witness marks look like and what your tolerance for misalignment is. I'm not into self-flagellation, I'm not going to lap or bed rings that don't need it. If folks don't want to lap or bed their rings I don't care, but I do care if they're telling others not to do it "because it isn't necessary" when I've seen examples that really did need it.
Whether it is needed or not is determined by lapping *just* enough to see what the witness marks look like and what your tolerance for misalignment is. I'm not into self-flagellation, I'm not going to lap or bed rings that don't need it. If folks don't want to lap or bed their rings I don't care, but I do care if they're telling others not to do it "because it isn't necessary" when I've seen examples that really did need it.
I didn't say bed rings. I said bed the base. The base to receiver, especially factory receivers, is where the misalignment starts and transferred to rings. And I don't want people screwing up perfectly good rings because some think it's needed on every rifle. It's not.
