What constitutes “long range hunting”?
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Pretty much sums it up 100%
I think things like; the definition of the meaning of long-range is really near undefinable in a ballistic conversation, as is, what is; short-range, or ultra-long or ultra short-range. In some cases, I think it's cartridge specific like; long-range in a 16" inch/50 cal ... yes "rifled gun" on a Battleship, its "shot-call" long-range is something like 26 miles with about 1 moa accuracy or about its maximum distance of accuracy, at the same time a .22 RL is quite a bit shorter depending on the cartridge, S.L.LR it's "shot-call" for long-range is much shorter, thus 7mm Rem and .338 Lapua also has different long-range abilities based or it's maximum effective range aka "shot-call". See the problem as to who can really define it.
I think even looking up the NRA's or Merriam Webster definition of long-range can leave you scratching your head as rifle and pistol shooting goes, not even mentioning Archery, it's just one of those things that; "we know what's being talked about but no one can really describe it, for everyone concept to be agreed upon" Sorry guys that the best I could do. Cheers
I think even looking up the NRA's or Merriam Webster definition of long-range can leave you scratching your head as rifle and pistol shooting goes, not even mentioning Archery, it's just one of those things that; "we know what's being talked about but no one can really describe it, for everyone concept to be agreed upon" Sorry guys that the best I could do. Cheers
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This forward thinking separates the chess from the checkers players!
Seems to me that longer shots at smaller targets would be more challenging, and more fun. I know the farther the shot on chucks, and coyotes is way more satisfying than the close ones. Same with big game. I don`t think about body size on my game, I think about proper shot placement, and that`s what I aim for no matter how big or small the target. My farthest kill to date was a yote at 1160. Aim small miss small
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We just had a special club meeting/training because members keep shooting the 24" wide edge boards on the target stands. Shoot the backstop boundary markers and the roof of the bench cover.
So, where I live, hitting a 100 ft wide by 25 ft tall backstop at 100 yards is difficult for some folks. We actually have to prove we can hit the backstop at 300yds before they will let us in that gate! ….and yes, it is about the same size.
So, yes, in your area where people are more accurate, I can appreciate the challenge of keeping all rounds on a 24x24 sight in target!
This is long range with irons. 18 wide, 24 inch tall steel at 1000 yards. 1 sighter, 10 shots for record.
Watch "TLRS 1,000 YDS - Iron Sights - M1A" on YouTube
Watch "TLRS 1,000 YDS - Iron Sights - M1A" on YouTube
Well I for one don't particularly care for the man/woman comparison but since i am definitely in the minority here it probably won't matter to anyone. I have shot long range, between 600 and 1000 yards. All of my shots at those distances have been at paper since I do not subscribe to shooting at animals (other than prairie dogs and vermin) at that range. I know my capabilities as well as my rifle/load's probably as well and maybe better than anyone on this site. I also know that the 1 MOA rifle under perfect circumstances which seldom present themselves when hunting at 500 yards means a perfect shot is only likely to hit within 5 inches of where the rifle was aimed when it discharged, hopefully the aiming point and all of the other things in-between worked out to make the bullet hit where you were pointing, but that seldom happen either. As ranges increases so does the errors. at 700 yards the perfect shot means that the bullet will hit within 7 inches, and at 1000 yards the bullet will hit within 10 inches of where you were aiming when the rifle sent it's message of death when the round broke, barring any atmospheric abnormalities in between. I hear a lot of people bragging about their magnificent shots when trying to execute animals at long range, but my question is, How many of those magnificent shots were first round hits at those ranges? Can anybody here actually claim to have a one shot kill at any range beyond 500 yards? If so please let me know and fill me in on the circumstances. As once said in a nationwide news rag, "Inquiring minds want to know."
Long range is cartridge and somewhat target specific. Bryan Litz would define long range as the distance at which you have to make significant adjustments to elevation and windage in order to hit your target. Pretty much anything beyond your maximum point blank range. Thus, long range for 22lr is different than .308 win, which is different than 338 Lapua, which is different than 375 Cheytac.
That said people often break it down into short range, medium range, long range, extended long range, and extreme long range. Short range is from 0-500 as almost all center fire cartridges are supersonic at that distance and inside of 500 yards, unless it's blowing >10mph, you can almost ignore wind with anything bigger than a .223. Medium range typically runs ~500 yards out ~750 yards because wind really needs to be accounted for and spin drift shows up. Beyond 750 yards wind, bullet BC, spin drift and coriolis have a much greater effect on your hit probability and is where long range begins. Extended long range typically starts at the transonic range of your cartridge. Extreme long range begins once you go subsonic.
That said people often break it down into short range, medium range, long range, extended long range, and extreme long range. Short range is from 0-500 as almost all center fire cartridges are supersonic at that distance and inside of 500 yards, unless it's blowing >10mph, you can almost ignore wind with anything bigger than a .223. Medium range typically runs ~500 yards out ~750 yards because wind really needs to be accounted for and spin drift shows up. Beyond 750 yards wind, bullet BC, spin drift and coriolis have a much greater effect on your hit probability and is where long range begins. Extended long range typically starts at the transonic range of your cartridge. Extreme long range begins once you go subsonic.
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Again, there's a standard. A man is a man. It's stupid to watch a biological male in ufc ******* some girl up because he is "transitioning." I don't have a problem with anyone with gender dysphoria, but when we start talking about bending reality and projecting fantasy in lieu of reality then it's a problem.Well I for one don't particularly care for the man/woman comparison but since i am definitely in the minority here it probably won't matter to anyone. I have shot long range, between 600 and 1000 yards. All of my shots at those distances have been at paper since I do not subscribe to shooting at animals (other than prairie dogs and vermin) at that range. I know my capabilities as well as my rifle/load's probably as well and maybe better than anyone on this site. I also know that the 1 MOA rifle under perfect circumstances which seldom present themselves when hunting at 500 yards means a perfect shot is only likely to hit within 5 inches of where the rifle was aimed when it discharged, hopefully the aiming point and all of the other things in-between worked out to make the bullet hit where you were pointing, but that seldom happen either. As ranges increases so does the errors. at 700 yards the perfect shot means that the bullet will hit within 7 inches, and at 1000 yards the bullet will hit within 10 inches of where you were aiming when the rifle sent it's message of death when the round broke, barring any atmospheric abnormalities in between. I hear a lot of people bragging about their magnificent shots when trying to execute animals at long range, but my question is, How many of those magnificent shots were first round hits at those ranges? Can anybody here actually claim to have a one shot kill at any range beyond 500 yards? If so please let me know and fill me in on the circumstances. As once said in a nationwide news rag, "Inquiring minds want to know."
There are dozens, including myself who have made shots beyond 700y. Seriously, why is anyone on this forum if we are just going to make "long range" 100-300y? Further more, just because the animal is close doesn't mean it's any more of a guarantee for a "one shot kill." I promise plenty of people have screwed that 100y shot up too.
Some are men and some are just male!
Lyudmila Mikhailovna Pavlichenko was a Soviet sniper credited with 309 kills!
It does not make a man to pull the trigger!
But that's my opinion! That and $2 might get you a coke at the 7/11
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Ok, this Russian chick was a chick. Period. Your post is missing the mark.
He she whatever pronoun wanted to bring up their disapproval and so there was my response.
My point was that are things with absolute definitions. Long range is long range, a Apple is a Apple, purple is purple, the earth is round. These are definite and quantifiable things. You simply posted about a Russian sniper who got recently popular because she's basically a character on call of duty, yet no one is talking about women…
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