Berger supporters, Vocal Minority with Something to Gain, or Legit?

sturner said:

Shot accubonds for years in a 7mag and 300 wm never had one explode and the 300 shoots 180s

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Just my experience, 300 rum, distance was a couple feet on a wounded bear. Nothing more than a couple pieces of jacket found about the size of a pencil eraser. Fist sized entry holes, few inches of penetration, no contact with large bone. My wife, kids and meat grinder thank me for switching to solid copper bullets. That being said, i think the accubond is a great bullet for its intended use at slower velocities or longer ranges.

Ingwe said:

I haven't had an Accubond explode yet and I killed allot of animals with them. I have been using the ABLR's lately and even though they are supposedly softer than regular AB's, I haven't had them explode either.

Here's a 175gr ABLR that hit a Zebra at @ 2,800fps in shoulder bone and was recovered on off side under skin.

Pretty good test for a bullet

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What did the bullet weigh ?

WYO300RUM said:

What did the bullet weigh ?

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77gr from 175

L.Sherm said:

I tried the Barnes x bullets on a deer 30 years ago what a disaster, had to shoot the thing 5 times to put it down.
Penciled right through it.

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They changed since then.

gator378 said:

They changed since then.

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Yep. Wasn't even going to try... all bullets are awesome and all bullets suck, it's simple.

gator378 said:

They changed since then.

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Well I wont be trying again to find out.

Every thing can and can not improve over time. I've used Barnes for over twenty years. Tried lots of others before and after including Berger's. Went back to Barnes and have been happy with them.

L.Sherm said:

Well I wont be trying again to find out.

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We get better overtime (knowledge) but projectiles can't? Silly

Products get redesigned all the time. Problem is the manufacturer doesn't tell you because then it would be an admission of fault. And they are usually better.

Ingwe said:

77gr from 175

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Great. Thanks !

Rhett Crider said:

Products get redesigned all the time. Problem is the manufacturer doesn't tell you because then it would be an admission of fault. And they are usually better.

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Right on Rhett.

Elkeater said:

You watched escanaba in da moonlight didn't you?

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The only problem with Berger bullets is they just let anyone buy and load them. They should have a hand loading test you have to take and PASS before they they will sell them. Not trying to be rude-just truthful.......................and yes ELKEATER I did get that pearl of wisdom from Escanaba in the moon light. Great movie !!

All I can say is my GF shot this doe at 50 yards or so ( can't remember exact yardage) with a 260 Rem 140 Grain Berger bullet. That exit wound is 7" long and 1.5" wide. The doe walked around 10-15 yards after she was hit. They don't always drop in their tracks no matter what you hit them with. The impact even broke the neck.

This is a real old one to start back up.