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quigley257

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This was posted on the PV Facebook page a few minutes ago...

PRIMERS!!!
OK, now that I have your attention I'd like to share two phone calls I have received this week. Both phone calls were from ammo manufacturers who have a "surplus" of primers. Now, before you go all ape s... on some of the big name folks out there I'll let you know these aren't the big name folks. But, these folks have obviously been resourceful and got their hands on some domestic and foreign primers. In the first case the OEM had 4 million primers he was willing to part with at the amazing price of $0.17 per primer. The second OEM was willing to part with all 2.4 million primers he had for a price of $0.20 per primer. Honestly, we could have probably purchased them all and sold them all and made a profit. So, you ask "Why didn't you?" This answer is two fold
(1) We would sell every dang one but at the same time be absolutely crucified by customers and the shooting community for "gouging".
(2) I believe in the American spirit of capitalism. I admire these folks for being resourceful and sourcing these primers and trying to make a buck. However, I don't agree with how it's happening. I won't be the source of their profiteering. I'd rather just sell the minimal primers we're getting from the manufacturers themselves and be able to charge what I believe is a fair price.
Now, don't get me wrong. If someone came to us at what we believe to be a fair price and I could keep the prices somewhat reasonable I'd do it in a heartbeat. But, not at those prices.
But, I do ask for you guys to keep this in mind when you're seeing what you believe to be outrageous prices. Just because the retailer is selling at a high price doesn't mean they are gouging. Everyone in the industry is scrounging to find inventory to be able to sell. Sometimes we find the inventory and take a risk by buying it at a higher price just so we have something available to sell.
Just wanted to throw out an example so you all can see what's going on. What you see is not always what is truly happening.
 
Love seeing that from PV. Don't be an enabler.

Frontier, by the same measure, just because you want to hoard stuff doesn't mean the rest of us didn't plan ahead as well. The difference? I SHOOT. I shoot A LOT. I don't hoard reloading supplies and then wag a finger at people because they don't have a consumable on hand, I actually USE IT.

I too bought tens of thousands of primers and 100s of pounds of powder. Its gone, I shot it. You see, that's what this stuff is for, you put it all together and then you go out and SHOOT IT.

So save us your indignation. We are all very happy that you have a bunch of stuff you don't use. Bravo, you are officially a hoarder. When you become a shooter, check back in with us.
 
Cannot believe the whining from those who never learned to plan ahead.

Bought mine during Obama days for $35.00/ 1000.
What was I thinking??? I should have known long before I built my rifle exactly what type of bullets the rifle would like, what powder, what primers....

Should have known of other builds I was going to do by going to a psychic to tell me my future...

Or that I was going to invest in reloading because a friend worked with me on the process.
 
I just started reloading....or I would have stocked up....and I can only afford a little at a time and with the upfront cost of setting up all the reloading stuff and then buying components and then also building my first and second rifle...this is no cheap hobby, I am just a poor boy...from a poor family....lol

school teacher and wife is a LPN nurse, we love what we do but we don't rake in the big bucks lol..
 
This was posted on the PV Facebook page a few minutes ago...

PRIMERS!!!
OK, now that I have your attention I'd like to share two phone calls I have received this week. Both phone calls were from ammo manufacturers who have a "surplus" of primers. Now, before you go all ape s... on some of the big name folks out there I'll let you know these aren't the big name folks. But, these folks have obviously been resourceful and got their hands on some domestic and foreign primers. In the first case the OEM had 4 million primers he was willing to part with at the amazing price of $0.17 per primer. The second OEM was willing to part with all 2.4 million primers he had for a price of $0.20 per primer. Honestly, we could have probably purchased them all and sold them all and made a profit. So, you ask "Why didn't you?" This answer is two fold
(1) We would sell every dang one but at the same time be absolutely crucified by customers and the shooting community for "gouging".
(2) I believe in the American spirit of capitalism. I admire these folks for being resourceful and sourcing these primers and trying to make a buck. However, I don't agree with how it's happening. I won't be the source of their profiteering. I'd rather just sell the minimal primers we're getting from the manufacturers themselves and be able to charge what I believe is a fair price.
Now, don't get me wrong. If someone came to us at what we believe to be a fair price and I could keep the prices somewhat reasonable I'd do it in a heartbeat. But, not at those prices.
But, I do ask for you guys to keep this in mind when you're seeing what you believe to be outrageous prices. Just because the retailer is selling at a high price doesn't mean they are gouging. Everyone in the industry is scrounging to find inventory to be able to sell. Sometimes we find the inventory and take a risk by buying it at a higher price just so we have something available to sell.
Just wanted to throw out an example so you all can see what's going on. What you see is not always what is truly happening.
I hope those profiteering jack asses have to eat those 2 million primers. I will LMAO
 
I'm confused. Wow! Is that what you do as an ammo maker? Gee, I got too many that I paid $0.005 for, but I'll take $0.2 for them!
 
I just started reloading....or I would have stocked up....and I can only afford a little at a time and with the upfront cost of setting up all the reloading stuff and then buying components and then also building my first and second rifle...this is no cheap hobby, I am just a poor boy...from a poor family....lol

school teacher and wife is a LPN nurse, we love what we do but we don't rake in the big bucks lol..
Welcome to the rabbit hole! If you need anything, anything at all, @Frontier1992 apparently bought a bunch of stuff two presidents ago and never uses any of it, and would probably making you a sweet deal. You'd have to pull him away from that tree he's focused on though and open his eyes to the larger forest. ;)
 
You guys can jump on my A## also, I bought 16lbs of H1000 a year ago not 2013. Why 16lbs you ask because i load for 4 rifles that eat the stuff and at 85 grains a round in one it goes quick.
Nobody's going to jump on you for that. I wish I had a powder that all of my rifles liked. Of all mine, only 2 like the same powder and the rest fly solo.
 
Cannot believe the whining from those who never learned to plan ahead.

Bought mine during Obama days for $35.00/ 1000.
What an *** thing to say. What about the 7 plus million new firearm owners? Should they have planned ahead? What about the persons whom bought new calibers of which require a different powder, primer, or brass to go shooting. Should they have planned ahead? This is just straight up bragging from someone who never shared their toys as a kid.
 
Nobody's going to jump on you for that. I wish I had a powder that all of my rifles liked. Of all mine, only 2 like the same powder and the rest fly solo.
Me too I keep adding calibers and different powders. Last year I had about 25 different powders in inventory and I would rather have less than 10. Further all but 4 of them were in lots of 1 or 2 pounds. My kegs of H4350, H1000, Varget, and Retumbo are almost empty and I haven't been able to replace them. So I ended up switching to different brands. So far this year I've added 3 vitavouri, and 3 shooters choice powders to the mix...its all I could do to keep shooting.
 

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