6.5 Caliber 140 gr. too lite for Elk ?

Congrstes on the Bull,,, awesomeness fore sure...

The 243 Winchester for big game hunting up here in the North was the standard,,, I think that the 6.5 Granola is allowed in the mix now...

Of course some folks like the bigger is better as I followed that rule for years,,, now I'm testing and a 6.5 loooooong case cartridge this year to find out what it can do in the up close and personal...

140gr Nosler Partions should do the job...

Cheers from the North

[ Bullet placement and bullet construction trump bullet size.[/QUOTE]

This has been the case since the invent of smokeless powder. Back in the day...way back in the day, if it wasn't 54 cal. it just wouldn't make a decent elk gun.

Yes sir I'm lost on that my

BrentM said:

I will never understand the need to come on a long range hunting forum and try to tell people that is not right to hunt beyond x distance etc. Why on earth would you even join the forum in the first place. If you don't agree with LR hunting then find another forum. I have only killed a few big animals with a rifle. I've guided hunters for 32 years and rifle hunting big game is just not that appealing to me. I use long range skills for comps and predator hunting. I do almost all big game hunting with a bow. However, I sure the heck don't come on this forum and pontificate a stance that is anti long range. That is counter intuitive and productive.

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Yes sir I am lost on that myself. It's like watching Pigman on tv and saying there is to much blood. LoL!!! I'm sorry I thought it was a hunting show. I've never killed anything without seeing blood, but hey if someone knows that trick please share with the rest of us hunters. I'm very interested.

Yes sir I'm lost on that my

BrentM said:

I will never understand the need to come on a long range hunting forum and try to tell people that is not right to hunt beyond x distance etc. Why on earth would you even join the forum in the first place. If you don't agree with LR hunting then find another forum. I have only killed a few big animals with a rifle. I've guided hunters for 32 years and rifle hunting big game is just not that appealing to me. I use long range skills for comps and predator hunting. I do almost all big game hunting with a bow. However, I sure the heck don't come on this forum and pontificate a stance that is anti long range. That is counter intuitive and productive.

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Yes sir I am lost on that myself. It's like watching Pigman on tv and saying there is to much blood. LoL!!! I'm sorry I thought it was a hunting show. I've never killed anything without seeing blood, but hey if someone knows that trick please share with the rest of us hunters. I'm very interested. It's funny

nicholasjohn said:

There's another thread going right now about using .224 centerfires for deer, which has also been prohibited in a lot of states. This stirs up plenty of controversy as well, and a lot of people feel pretty strongly about it. The one ingredient that can't be ignored in these discussions is the shooter's proficiency - which is only really a known entity to the shooter. Cartridge restrictions won't cure poor shooting- only training & practice will do that. Bullet placement and bullet construction trump bullet size.

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it's funny
how people say a 223 can not be used on deer but yet people kill hogs everyday with one. I guess I misread the book where it says deer skin is 10x thicker than hog skin.

Deer=Game Animal..Hogs= Invasive Non-native. The rules are totally different?
Right or wrong I don't have the money to fight it! It's easier and cheaper to just play along.

I've seen 400# hogs & 1000# beef killed on farms with 1 shot each from a 22lr. Shot placement is the key.

KyCarl said:

One game does not a season make! Just because it worked this time will it the next?
Personally I think it's too small. As does the state of Kentucky who mandates .270 or larger for Elk! At that range I would have taken my 300WM with about a 200Gr. bullet! To err on the big side is cool! On the small side sucks big time!

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Just the few guys at work I can count 18 ish elk on shot killed last year with mostly 6.5 creeds, if it's to small to kill elk with that's a personal issue or lik me just want to shoot something else but is certainly not a cal or chamberings issue!!

I'll quit using my 260 Rem and go to my 7 Mag the day my 260 Rem with 140 Grain Berger's let me down. It doesn't look good for the 7 Mag cause I've been using my 260 sense 1997.

I'm sitting here reading some of these forums and can't help but laugh. 270 cal or larger for elk? I just don't under. 243 Win and 6.5 cal rifles are being used in Africa all the time on animals well over 1000 #s.

Guys, don't feed the trolls. .264 cal rounds have been putting elk on the ground at LRH distances for decades. If the evidence doesn't convince them then nothing will. It's called cognitive bias.

Ha ha, good times. States make or made rules based on some really stupid logic or logic that was sound at some point time in someone's mind. Here Arrows used to be a x weight, no lighted knocks, draw weight minimums, no expandable heads etc. Technology changed things, people became educated.... those people change the rules and update the regs. Some dufus in KY who thinks a 270 is fine but a 6.5 is not, is literally using Kentucky windage to fulfill an arbitrary rule. Oh that reminds me, we still have a rule that a rifle cannot weight more than 16 lbs.

You can use a bow or crossbow & wonder how big they have to be?

Archers have rules too. Min Draw weight..No expendables..Lighted nocks?
No scopes on muzzleloaders iron sights only..Rules Every Where!

I almost have to believe that those who say a 140gr class 6.5 is not effective on elk have had limited experience using them. I haven't been drawn lately for elk but my grandkids seem to keep getting drawn. They have all used a 6.5-06 for elk using the 142 ABLR shooting a little over 500 yards. The entrance wound on the first bull shot left a dime-sized hole and a fist-sized exit just behind the opposite shoulder (just fell forward about 5 feet) On another the shot landed in the hip on the first shot but it went down and he was able to get another shot in it fairly quickly. The hip bones were completely shattered and immobile. I admit we had a near miss using the Berger target 140s from a SAUM but quickly abandoned those. If using a reliable hunting design at a reasonable velocity they are very effective elk rounds.
on a side note, my niece was able to take a muley last week using the 25 cal 131 blackjacks with a MV of 3250 and it also left a fist size exit wound (only 150 yards). Dropped as though the ground fell out from under it. Really starting to like the new heavy .257.