Those are Canadian Elk that entered Alaska illegally..send them back!What kind of game at 700? Elk are medium size in Alaska
Mild recoiling rifle for hunting medium sized game
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Gobears16
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Don't know if it's been mentioned but I would go with a Tikka CTR 24in 6.5CM (850-950). Then I would try and find the Athlon Ares BTR 4.5-27 for 420-550. With the left over you could drop it into a KRG Bravo .... I just did this exact set up and it shoots Hornady American Gunner .5 Moa right out of the box.
ATH
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Perhaps because people run the numbers and understand that the 6mms run under 1000 ft-lbs around 600 yards, and are below recommended bullet expansion velocities? I LOVE my 243AI, but I'm not shooting medium game at 600 with it. Doesn't matter how well it pokes holes in paper at 1000 for F-Class.
I learned long range hunting on this forum. I really miss the days when people spoke from experience and showed the respect of game to use reasonably large rounds to reach out there. Now we're talking .223s and 6mms to make neck/head shots at long range? Ugh...
I'll stick with my 300WM and 338 Edge, thanks. If you can't handle the recoil, man up or get a good brake. They work.
CNY Yote Hunter
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Sweet rig you got there!!!
window licker
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Yeah, for 95% of the people shooting game out there, head and neck shots at 600+ are probably a bad idea. Regardless of the bullet diameter.
Memberberries
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Aren't head and neck shots are a bad idea at any distance?
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del2les
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I have to partly disagree. At my altitudes, my 6mm's with 105's still carry 2,000fps @ 900 yds and 900ft/lbs of energy, and from game I have shot @ 600-850yds, it has never failed to expand. Ft/lbs of energy at or above 1,000 is a non-issue, as I have killed my fair share of deer sized and similar game with a 357Mag and other handgun calibers that do not even have 1,000ft/lbs at the muzzle. Those game are just as dead and they did not know the difference in 500ft/lbs vs 1,000.
As for shooting game in the head/neck area, that is a different topic, and one I do not practice.
Proper bullet construction for the game at hand and shot placement means far more than an arbitrary minimum 1,000ft/lbs.
A few successful hunting calibers with much less than 1,000ft/lbs @ 50yds:
357 Mag
10mm
41 Mag
44 Mag
45 Colt +P
Numerous muzzle loader loads
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kiemtienspeed
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.308win, .270win or 6.5PRC.
West Calamus
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Indyal if your buying a factory rifle for long range paper cutting I would go with the 6.5's or 7-08. Would stick with the 24 in barrels that are in the varmint/predator/long range models. The budget models all the manufacturers make have light whippet barrels that have bad harmonics. The extra barrel weight will help hold on target and reduce recoil. Even a .270 or 7-08 in a 6 1/2 # rifle with a hot load will start to jar your teeth after 20 rounds. On your scopes just make sure it has external adjustments and all the clarity you can afford. Some of these highly advertised scopes get kinda blurie after a hour of shooting. I find that leupolds just seem to stand up to a clearer sight picture after several hours shooting. You really can't just stand at a gun counter and look though the scope to know how much clarity a scope has but you can after several hours shooting. Good luck my friend!!
I never understood the recoil concerns on a hunting rifle. There is only one time that I recalled recoil after shooting at a deer. I leaned too far into the scope and it cut my eyebrow. I'm concentrating so hard on the shot that I don't even hear the kaboom.
