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Has anyone checked out the TL technologies action? A lot of features packed into an $800 action.

The one "BIG" complaint about the mausingfield is that hideous bolt knob he used. From one engineer to the next, why?! It's so hideous!
 
bdlesh said:
Hey Frog4aday, Thanks for the info!
I am wanting to build a rifle for a once in a lifetime (but I hope it isn't my Last) elk hunt. I have several that would work just fine, Nut like a woman needing and new dress for the Church social, A new one would be better....at least that's what I keep telling myself.
with all that said, I have narrows it down to a .338 caliber and strongly leaning towards a 338 Sherman short or max. I really like having something out of the ordinary, not a shelf item. I know I can't find ammo in a vending machine in Denver or Anchorage. I has taken only about a year to come to this conclusion. So I still have a bit to figure out and here is the place that will barrow it all down. The experience found here is second to none. This is online learning at its best!
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Since you got the cartridge down you already have half the battle done. I agree with bigngreen's options of the Tikka, Defiance and Montana. Tikka seems to be the new upstart that is rapidly gaining ground in the precision market and more and more companies are offering parts for it.

With the money you save over a custom action you could put more money into the barrel and stock. A Carbon Six prefit barrel and a Manners EHT carbon fiber stock would make for a fairly light weight hunting rifle I would guess comes in around 7 to 8 pounds or so.
 
While I have more then a few actions that I really like, my Bighorn TL3 probably comes closest to being the perfect action for my tastes in either hunting or completion. CRF, easy takedown, interchangeable bolt heads and bolt knobs, integral scope base and recoil lug. Function and reliability under heavy use has .been excellent.
 
CMP70306 said:
You keep saying that the Mausingfield is a poorly designed collection of parts but never elaborate as to what on it is so poorly designed that it's an issue?

The toroidal lugs are so far the only thing you have mentioned but I'm getting 1/4 MOA or less out of mine when I do my part. Not sure how much more accurate it needs to be for a field rifle so I doubt lapping the lugs is even necessary.
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It's been covered before, they need more spring which they had to do, but they need lighter springs to run decently because they are not designed as a whole action, the geometry does not flow, its way of, over cocking, cock on close, ramp angle, extraction timing all work in time and if you don't do it as a whole you end up having to do things to make an action feel good. You can shoot stupid small up close but things like spring power really start showing up with range, if your shooting and need a gun that you can run and not move how it runs with a full power spring make a difference when staying on target. It's beautifully engineered but none of the function are working together so you while it goes bang that's not really the whole story. If you've never felt what a timed action runs like you really can't understand what I'm saying, some guys won't care but that does not mean the action is right!
How do you know it's your part when your groups open up? That's the point, if you look at actions that will agg small, with 100's of rounds well sub 1/2 moa at 1000 yards measured on paper at the widest point your not seeing Mausingfields, if you just look at the mechanics of accuracy the action matters and you measure everything not what you think is the rifle and what you think is you. Fact is you can be competitive with one in somethings, great they have a market.
 
Greyfox said:
While I have more then a few actions that I really like, my Bighorn TL3 probably comes closest to being the perfect action for my tastes in either hunting or completion. CRF, easy takedown, interchangeable bolt heads and bolt knobs, integral scope base and recoil lug. Function and reliability under heavy use has .been excellent.
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I have a TL3! Didn't even think about all the features on it!! Good call!
 
300whisper said:
The one "BIG" complaint about the mausingfield is that hideous bolt knob he used. From one engineer to the next, why?! It's so hideous!
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Personally I like it, makes the action instantly recognizable even from a distance. And more importantly it works well, catches my pointer on the way up and my thumb on the way down in a way seems to run smoother than any other bolt action I've tried.

That being said it looks like they are transitioning to a smooth barbell style rather than the current design, same functionally but less likely to continue hardening was the callus on my right pointer finger.
 
CMP70306 said:
Personally I like it, makes the action instantly recognizable even from a distance. And more importantly it works well, catches my pointer on the way up and my thumb on the way down in a way seems to run smoother than any other bolt action I've tried.
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Not doubting your personal experience, but I have a GAP Built rifle on their Templar action. It's nitrided and probably the smoothest action ive ever touched. Have you had experience with defiance? It's nuts the attention to detail they have with those actions. I have no experience with mausingfields.
 
The Templar is a nice piece, it was built as a whole action, you can see the flow through it from full diameter bolt which is smoother but also lets you cut a longer ramp so you can get more cocking with less throw and easier lift with a full power spring. The replaceable integral lugs for a different heat treat and material, dig it!
 
300whisper said:
Has anyone checked out the TL technologies action? A lot of features packed into an $800 action.

The one "BIG" complaint about the mausingfield is that hideous bolt knob he used. From one engineer to the next, why?! It's so hideous!
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And this here is why mechanics and engineers can't be friends. Kinda like the farmers and the cow men.:D
 
300whisper said:
Not doubting your personal experience, but I have a GAP Built rifle on their Templar action. It's nitrided and probably the smoothest action ive ever touched. Have you had experience with defiance? It's nuts the attention to detail they have with those actions. I have no experience with mausingfields.
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I have not though their GA hunter action with CRF and the 3 position safety was on my short list for a hunting rifle build. However the required extractor cut would have added an extra $400 per barrel over using proof prefits so I ended up ruling it out. If they had designed it to work with Savage prefits I would have bought one.
 
CMP70306 said:
I have not though their GA hunter action with CRF and the 3 position safety was on my short list for a hunting rifle build. However the required extractor cut would have added an extra $400 per barrel over using proof prefits so I ended up ruling it out. If they had designed it to work with Savage prefits I would have bought one.
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Yeah, the thing about premium actions is any additional thing you want, they mark up considerably.
 
I'd want the X-bolt safety and bolt lock, Tikka T3 bolt (two lugs, 70 degree lift, smooth as butter) and a five round magazine with a hinged floorplate. Classic american profile stock with a high comb that leans slightly forward (see Sauer 100 rifles) and a long, rounded forend. Preferrably with a threaded 18-20" barrel with a profile that is neither target weight nor mountain rifle ultralight.

As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with a simple plunger ejector and a normal extractor. Controlled round feed just makes things more complicated. Just look at the Sako 85 ejection weirdness. I want my scopes mounted low, with no risk of the brass hitting my scope. The worst fad is the European inclination to integrate the cocking of the mainspring with disengaging the safety. It's unnecessary, expensive, complicated and thus prone to failure.

I've got an old Sako L579 now that checks a lot of the boxes mentioned above, but the stock doesn't really fit me. Very nice safety though. As far as new production rifles go, I'd like to try a Bergara B14. I understand the Bergara safety does not lock the bolt, but except for that, they seem really nice.
 
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