Leaving a lot of the 22-250 on cutting room floor

Sometimes, but not always. Varied caliber bullets have differing BC's, and sometimes the lesser caliber bullet may have a higher BC and can be driven faster with a smaller case capacity. When simply shooting LR targets, steel gongs or smaller game/varmints, a heavier, larger caliber bullet isn't always needed nor desired. 1,000yd BR comes to mind.

Added: Other considerations for active LR shooters are component costs, heavier recoil, faster barrel erosion/costs, possible noise factor, etc. I've trained youth and inexperienced LR shooters, and practice myself, with a fast twist, long throated 26" 223 with 75-80gr bullets, and the cost savings of components compared to my larger hunting calibers allows for 2-3 times as many shots per cartridge and the barrels last 5,000+ rounds before setting back.

So there can be many advantages of using smaller and/or faster calibers for things that do not require a heavier caliber. And besides, its our hobby and fun to experiment with different things.
Here is a 1,000 yd 223 75gr loaded with AA2520 that leaves a 26" barrel at 2970fps, so its BC, flight performance and velocity are similar to many larger, more expensive and harder kicking calibers. Thus allowing for more training, more shooting fun and less end-of-the-day head/body aches.

Yes agree with what your saying, for example the 223 Tikka 1:8 twist has a bit of a cult following here in Aus for LR work & .224 is generally one of the cheapest component wise to load for depending on what your using, plenty of bulk projectile deals to be had.

I have a Remington SFV hunter 22/250 with 1:14 it can shoot up 70's with a flat base, It does the job on varmints but yeh I wish more factory makers would include more twist rates in their factory offering!!!
There is a definite market for it, Id love to have my rifle with a 1:10 from the factory.

I don't understand why more manufacturers aren't on top of this?
 
Where are you guys seeing the Tikka 22-250 with an 8 twist? Don't see them anywhere. Or are you all talking about the Tikka 223 with 8 twist? Those I can find.
 
Where are you guys seeing the Tikka 22-250 with an 8 twist? Don't see them anywhere. Or are you all talking about the Tikka 223 with 8 twist? Those I can find.
Whittakers has the Tikka 1:8 I bought one last month, will be punched out to 22 creedmoor. They also sell a ruger american in 1:8 twist 22-250. Barrett initially released the fieldcract 22-250 with a 1:7 but quickly changed it to 1:8. I looked really hard for the 1:7 model before getting my Tikka.
 
What about @ 95gr which is what the OP is asking about?
I just think at times people try to push the boundaries of a projectile/cartridge combination when the answer can be as easy as just going up in cartridge & calibre.
Just my view!!
This is exactly correct, I do have a 9 twist 22/250 AI
that I use 69 gr bullets in that works very well for me on prairie dogs.
But i also have a 6mm with 105s sitting close by for when I want to reach out a little more.
Not to mention the 223 with 50s.
 
I re-barreled a 788 to 8 twist at 24" and am running 75 vld's 3342fps and very accurate 1.75" at 400 yards. I have shot prairie dogs last two days and its stupid in the wind compared to my 223 with 55's. First day was 30 for 35 and yesterday 28 for 31. At 400 yards you better be on your game and this combo makes it easier.
 
Looking for a rifle that has a 1:9
twist rate for the 22-250. I want to push some of the heavier bullets (95 gr) to reach our further. Better BC.

I believe the current and common 1:12 twist rate leaves a lot on the cutting room floor as far as the potential of 22-250 cartridge.
1 in 9 wont do it. For those long 22 cal bullets a 1 in 8 is minimum, its marginal for 90+ grain bullets. A 1 in 7 is better. If you you're stepping into 95 or 100 grains a 1 in 6.5 is way to go. I been working with a 224 Valkyrie with 1-8 and the 88gr ELD. It pretty good but I wish I'd gone to a 7 twist. Check the Berger stabilization app for the bullets you want to shoot before you buy. I promise you that a 1 in 9 will not deliver what you want. Maybe up to 69 grains or so but the military even tightened up to 7 and 8 twist for the 77 grain mk262 model 0. The difference in BC makes for long bullets and going from 77 to even 80 grains is pretty significant. When you start breaking into the 500s coefficient you'll be shocked. Pushing an 80 grain to 2700+ in a 5.56 makes for only 37 MOA at a grand. Your 22-250 could be a monster with a 6.5 or 7 twist.
 
What about @ 95gr which is what the OP is asking about?
I just think at times people try to push the boundaries of a projectile/cartridge combination when the answer can be as easy as just going up in cartridge & calibre.
Just my view!!

This was my thought on the topic as well.
Why not save all the angst and just up the caliber? Say like moving to a 220 Swift as one example?
I generally don't shoot much LR in smaller calibers other than .223 Remington.
Not because I don't want to...just never got around to it, but it seems that trying to get Lamborghini performance out of an old Ford Taurus is a great way to toss loads of $$ at an otherwise fruitless project when there might already be a better mouse trap, as the saying goes.
Not that I'm against experimentation, you understand. I guess I'm more of a purpose-built kinda guy and leave the modifications up to polishing the individual round(s) to extract the utmost performance in a given caliber.
Again, I'm NOT criticizing a specific caliber over another. Honest. I'm just intrigued by the mindset that looks to make one object into something that is already accomplished by another, dedicated, item.
However, all that said, if a shooter is an experimenter and likes to tinker to find that next great gun/ammo/bullet combination, I say Why NOT?!?
Good Luck and let us know what you ultimately decide on and how the project turns out for you.
Who knows?
You might just change this Curmudgeons mind. LOL
 
Yes agree with what your saying, for example the 223 Tikka 1:8 twist has a bit of a cult following here in Aus for LR work & .224 is generally one of the cheapest component wise to load for depending on what your using, plenty of bulk projectile deals to be had.

I have a Remington SFV hunter 22/250 with 1:14 it can shoot up 70's with a flat base, It does the job on varmints but yeh I wish more factory makers would include more twist rates in their factory offering!!!
There is a definite market for it, Id love to have my rifle with a 1:10 from the factory.

I don't understand why more manufacturers aren't on top of this?

I can appreciate your concern but it's all about the dollars and cents for the bean counters, honestly. And the manufacturers don't want product sitting on the shelves that isn't moving since it ties up Capital. I reckon they figure not many folks want a small caliber rifle with a gain twist these days, right? LOL
However, if the gun manufacturer(s) would make known they have barrel "options" WRT twist rate and so on, I'd be inclined to think they could actually scoop up a share of the market place previously unexplored. Potential buyer plunks down his moola for a specific action/caliber/twist and the manufacturer snaps his fingers and SHAZAM! Buyer gets what he or she wants instead of just another copycat that is a cookie cutter gun. Yawn.
Oh, and make barrel swaps a "relatively" easy project for the DIYer type not unlike how Savage makes their barrel attachment utilizing a barrel nut that is relatively easy to manipulate and ensure proper headspace.
Granted it isn't the most aesthetically appearing barrel/receiver combo but it isn't overly garish in appearance, either.
Form over function or something I reckon.
All that aside, my caliber juices are starting to flow and I think it is time to explore a new barrel for my Savage .223 so it can toss out some heavier pellets.
Although it does a remarkable job shooting everything from 52 grains up to 69 grains using SMK projo's. Not shot out by a long shot IMO but I have an itch to try some 75 grain and up pellets just because.
What a GREAT hobby this is!
Have Fun and Be Safe.
Overnout
 
Savage makes the most economical fast twist rifle out there. I own one and it shoots 1/2 MOA with the right loads. I shoot 75 to 80 grain Hornady ELD bullets and it loves them with Superformance.
 
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