Rangefinder Binocular
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W.t.ewing
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The Zeiss Victory RF is worth a serious look.Comes in 8/10X42 and 8/10X54. It has the Zeiss maximum performance FL glass T* coatings that give you the image quality you'd expect from Zeiss. They range from 11 to 2500 yards and with Bluetooth connectivity gives you the ability to synchronize with the Zeiss Hunting APP. You can loan your pet Ballistic profiles into the app and get instant solutions. This instrument measures the angle, temperature and air pressure while calculating equivalent horizontal distance of angles and will display holdover in inches/CM MOA, MILs and clicks...You get two for one. The most technological designed range finder and the best Binoculars you could own all in one Zeiss package............I think they may just be just the Cat's MEOW.
I have bushnell HDX for 300$$! And can range out to 1800 yards. With angles n bdc, etc.
I have swarovski compact rangefinder discontentinued better glass that can range to 1800 yds. They were $750.
My friend is a long range pdog n rockchucker and swears by Gunwerks G7 . Ive seen him make incredible first shot kills on ground squirrels at 750 yards, but his guns shoot. .10 inch groups. Velocity is within 5-10 fps standard deviation.
I have swarovski compact rangefinder discontentinued better glass that can range to 1800 yds. They were $750.
My friend is a long range pdog n rockchucker and swears by Gunwerks G7 . Ive seen him make incredible first shot kills on ground squirrels at 750 yards, but his guns shoot. .10 inch groups. Velocity is within 5-10 fps standard deviation.
I have a pair of the Leica in 10x42. Having the rangefinder in your binoculars is a great help. First, I can hold them more steady than my handheld rangefinder. Second, I find that I check distance much more frequently, because it's so quick and easy.
snox801
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From every vortex I've had yes they are a huge step up. I think the swaro s and Leica are even much better than the Zeiss.
Is the angle a real selling point anymore almost all good range finders have that. My leicas do.
I do think you can get better bang for the buck than Leica but not better equipment in the game.
Guys are overlooking you still need a wind meter in the instrument in a Kestrel is a lot more accurate the fact that you can Bluetooth your Sig Sauer kilo 3000 to your Kestrel makes it the winner hands down now the big question is how good is there glass
rustyshackleford
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I bought the Leica Geovid 10x42R at the 1st of the year. To me the glass is as good as I have any I've seen. I look through Zeiss, Swaro, and Vortex on a regular basis since I work at a gun store. All of the European optics have a warmer tint and in my opinion better contrast than vortex glass. The 1st day I had mine I ranged a hillside around dusk at 950 yards offhand. They are heavy for binoculars but lighter than a bino + rf as separate components. I bought mine knowing that I probably wouldn't shoot at an animal past 500 as things are and that's well within the performance envelope for these binos. I would buy them again. Hopefully they'll help me get an elk soon.
T-rev
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Which one is best at ranging a deer at long range? When I was in Montana last year I had a rangefinder that would go out to 1000 yards but there were times that the deer were farther and we wanted to know how far. Not that I'd be shooting at a deer at that distance but it gives me an idea of how much closer I need to get.
T-rev
all the binos mentioned are very good in the requirement you laid out.
the point I was making is that Sig Sauer to my knowledge is the only RF bino using BLUETOOTH which allows you to LiNk to your Kestrel 5700 Elite and is the reason if the glass is as good as other brands mentioned hell even if the glass is close in comparison for $1200 they'll be a game changer
Personally I can't believe it took this long for an RF bino to finally incorporate BT technology so you can pair to a kestrel
lastly for the hunter or shooter that simply wants to know distance to a given target and doesn't really use a kestrel to it's full advantage then a RF bino that has BT will not blow their socks off...
but for shooters like me it's the ****. I am praying the glass is really good; like I don't mind sitting behind them glassing up animals 6, 7 hrs a day good
if so then finally I can run just my binos and my kestrel 5700 elite... woohoo!!!
all the binos mentioned are very good in the requirement you laid out.
the point I was making is that Sig Sauer to my knowledge is the only RF bino using BLUETOOTH which allows you to LiNk to your Kestrel 5700 Elite and is the reason if the glass is as good as other brands mentioned hell even if the glass is close in comparison for $1200 they'll be a game changer
Personally I can't believe it took this long for an RF bino to finally incorporate BT technology so you can pair to a kestrel
lastly for the hunter or shooter that simply wants to know distance to a given target and doesn't really use a kestrel to it's full advantage then a RF bino that has BT will not blow their socks off...
but for shooters like me it's the ****. I am praying the glass is really good; like I don't mind sitting behind them glassing up animals 6, 7 hrs a day good
if so then finally I can run just my binos and my kestrel 5700 elite... woohoo!!!
snox801
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Problem with reading the wind for Bluetooth is it only the wind by you. Many times that's where I mess up the wind is not the same down range. Hence I spent most my time trying to learn to read it better. Not saying it's not valuable but I'll tell you I'll take the much better glass from Leica or swaro over Bluetooth. Plus you can still us kestrel and applied by loading the data. Not bang for the buck those sigs may be the ticket.
I think you should ask yourself what's the main purpose you'll be using these for. Do you shoot competitively, strictly hunting, or a combination of the two or something else. I hunt out west every year and spend a lot of time behind the the glass with binoculars and a spotting scope. A ranging function is handy but not critical. The best optics I can afford is number one on my list because finding game is of the utmost importance to me without straining my eyes. If I find it, I really don't have plans to shoot it at 3000-5000 yards so that capability is not important to me. If you plan on spending hours glassing then optical quality should be your number one consideration and that comes at a price. If you are a PRS shooter or some other form of competition then your standards could be different. I guess it boils down to what's best for you for what you plan to do and how much you can afford to spend doing it.
T-rev
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That makes sense. I would mainly be using them for hunting, so better glass and lighter weight are probably the two most important things. I would like something that can consistently range game to at least 1200 yards though
not sure what you mean by using BT to read the wind lol ?
since this is a long range hunting forum it's assumed that if you are using a kestrel 5700 w/ AB to it's "full advantage" you know how to use it (what it will and will not do) and that wind calls are made across the distance to be shot not just at your location
my point ( is and was ) if the glass is up to par then ELR and LR shooters can reduce our gear to two pieces.
