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bgbuck153 said:

So say I have a 24" barrel that shoots 3,000 FPS and I cut it back to 20" and add a can.... will it slow the bullet down since I reduced the length of the barrel or will adding the can keep it close?

Is there a minimum barrel contour to keep in mind if wanting to add a can?

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Dell said:

Thanks for this great info. All very true. I purchased mine thru Silencer Shop via the Kiosk at my local Gun Shop. We called The Silencer Shop and verified they had the model I wanted in stock. Actually the customer service guy said they had two in stock. I think the call to them after you decide which one you want is worth it vs. relying on what their website says.

nks

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Dell said:

I also just purchased my first silencer / suppressor through the Silencer Shop two weeks ago. Easy but fairly long process and I used the kiosk also. The ATF wait time is a bit ridiculous. I'm told with the recent Govt. Shutdown(s) it may be a year before I get the item. Never forked out a $ grand and had to wait a year or more to receive the purchase.

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odoylerules said:

I recently got my first can, a Blackhawk carnivore 300wm. I plan to run it on a 300 blackout and a 260 Remington. Again this is my first suppressor so bare with me. Do I need to do anything maintenance wise to it? I think it's a sealed model, so I don't know how I can clean out the internal baffles when they get really clogged/dirty.

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mcali2 said:

Sure they can. not on everything b

Yes, the do or can. Your looking in the wrong direction. Laws have been written, like the CA ban of AR15 rifles in 98. I had to register it. (The AR was grandfathered in) the law states when I die or move out of state the gun can no longer stay in the state. With a trust, I registered it as the owner , just like a cooperation as the owner, as long as it is "alive" the gun is good. people can join the trust for the next 100 years or until the state comes out and banns the use of trust.

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cohunt said:

That's because the old law had agrandfather clause, this is a special circumstance that allows for the trust as the owner to be under the old law, it will end when the beneficiary take control of the assets...

Example 1.. can you list your bump stock in your trust and still legally own it after 3/26/19-- no (especially in ca) it is now classified as a mg and must be destroyed since there has been a change in its definition thusly changing the law with no grandfather clause(I know this "definition" is being challenged right now though) --- example 2: f your state changes their law and now outlaws suppressors without a grandfather clause then you better move those suppressors out of that state, your trust wont protect you, its trustees, or beneficiaries if they stay in that state with the suppressor
--- same goes for anything else-- your trust is still bound by all current laws, if the current law has a grandfather clause then it works for private party and trust. New law regarding suppressors says that all transfers must go through a background check (even though trust grantors, trustees, and beneficiaries did not have to for a trust started before July 13, 2016) -- so when you die and the suppressor is distributed to its beneficiaries they will have to do a form 5 transfer with bg check with prints but wont have to pay the $200 tax stamp-- but you do not need a trust to transfer a suppressor to a beneficiary on a tax free form 5, just a will.
Not only can the feds change laws that can affect grantors, trustees, and beneficiaries but so can states)
Best thing to do when it comes down to getting legal help regarding guns, trusts , nfa items is to not rely on internet help -- go get a qualified attorney
A trust ends with its beneficiaries, and it can only be changed by its settlors/grantors, so once the grantors die, it will end when the beneficiaries can legally take control over its assets, they dont last forever.

Trusts offer some protection, but can be complicated and may require more bg check with fp cards than if you just did it on an individual basis, call and talk to a dedicated gun trust attorney to get the facts for your specific state

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Herr Nagler said:

Silencers or suppressors are a very "slippery slope" - like some other controlled substances.

Once you get one you will:
1.) find that you then need to have all of your rifle muzzles threaded to accept your suppressor
2.) Decide that it is too much of a pain to move a single suppressor from one rifle to another and so you will buy more
3.) you will find that you don't like shooting as much without one
4.) you will find that you hate shooting without one
5.) you will disparage and think ill thoughts of other shooters that were not courteous enough to purchase a suppressor for their guns
6.) you will feel hate for other shooters that use muzzle breaks
7.) you will be amazed at how much more productive and fun it is to hunt with one ...

You have been warned ...

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mt hunter22 said:

Have you tried a Cruz or a thunderbeast? I'm looking at getting a second suppressor.. and my purpose for it would be hunting ,the idea is I want to build a lightweight hunting rifle that is suppressed will probably be some 30 caliber variation and I want it to be light and short ,while sticking to that 1000-1200 yd effective on elk speeds.The idea that if needed I could screw it off or have it unattached and still get the same poi would be a nice option and I would of course have to be willing to trade some sound suppression for lighter weight and shorter. What I have now is a 13 pound rifle with a 28 inch barrel and if you add my elite iron bravo can it not only moves my poi a large amount but more importantly makes it wayyyyy to long and also very front heavy ,, definitely not a good backpacking option!!

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mcali2 said:

The point of the living trust or my family trust is to keep people in it so it will not die. I have 2 co trustees who gain controling athority when I die. As long as they want and if they appoint new co trustees It will not die. As with anything laws change. In some most cases a trust can live longer and as long as there is not a law removing the items 100% you are still better off with a trust. Plus everyone can enjoy the can and if it is outlawed and one of the trustees live in a state where is is still legal, you just relocate them. I have a 2nd A. Lawyer. I have to for my gun shop. That is how I understand it. I could be wrong but at this point does it matter? Here today gone tomorrow. We are losing gun rights almost weekely. Here in NV. We we will lose a ton this year.

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cohunt said:

Again, some states are different, but all trusts must have a grantor, trustees, and benificiaries(that must be living and named at the time of your death) upon the grantors death the trust automatically becomes an irrevocable trust and can no longer change, it ends when your benificiaries have received the full distribution from the trust. ALL trusts must end. Not all trusts are even legal, but unless contested may never be known they aren't. The atf does not look at the legality of your trust, just that you have one. People need to be aware that alot of the $99/quick trusts are not necessarily legal as generally they are not written correctly . Not saying your personal trust isnt right as I only know what my attorneys have informed me about regarding my trusts and state/federal laws, but all trusts must end with a beneficiary. They can actually be ended early by the benificiaries by way of court petition after the successors death.

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