My eyes are not like it used to.
Now, I know what you mean about the ban, and I agree.
6.5 Creedmor- the Holy Grail?
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My eyes are not like it used to.
Now, I know what you mean about the ban, and I agree.
WildRose
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Hate and logic are rarely found together.If he ****ed somebody off, he must have done something right as that is the case for the liberals regardless.
As far as ...
1. No argument there! But this is what this site is about ... pushing the boundaries/limits.
2. I personally do not know anybody that claims it's perfect and even if someone did, it is up to you to draw your own conclusion. As with Trump, hating the Creedmoor's success or its strong following is not the answer.
Like it or not, it's creativity and innovation like this that generates success, and Hornady and their collaborative efforts with their partners capitalized on it and their return on investments are many folds.
Cheers!
WildRose
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I saw an old joke the other day that's been slightly rewritten for modern times.If something "right" is a 90 day clock to turning legal gun owners into felons... sure.
More Gun control and illegal ATF power ain't "right" in my book though.
You seem to think I am anti CM and my post came from exactly the opposite POV. I quite liked mine, I don't have one anymore but the one I did own was a sharp little rifle. Further I own one of Hornadys newest hated calibers
"Last month more than 12 million American Deer Hunters took to the fields without a single mass shooting".
rokstockrangtang
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That would be the 6.5x375 martini and haagen,i have a reamer for it,too much work since nosler brought out the 26.
MudRunner2005
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You talking about that bullsh!t bumpstock ban? He needs to VETO that thing. It's complete Big Brother overreach and liberal anti-gun bullcrap.If something "right" is a 90 day clock to turning legal gun owners into felons... sure.
More Gun control and illegal ATF power ain't "right" in my book though.
You seem to think I am anti CM and my post came from exactly the opposite POV. I quite liked mine, I don't have one anymore but the one I did own was a sharp little rifle. Further I own one of Hornadys newest hated calibers
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It's not a bill, the admin is literally rewriting law and giving, nay telling the ATF to enforce it. It's done. The AG flat out said they are following what he told them to do.
MudRunner2005
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We had a stacked setup in every branch, and what did we get? More gun control... Now we've lost control of one (from election fraud), and the Dem's main platform goals for the next 2 years is gun control... Granted, it won't pass the Senate, but it's still infuriating and a waste of taxpayer money. Under the 2nd Amendment, the BATFE in-and-of itself (simply its existence) is entirely unconstitutional. Any law that regulates firearms, controls citizen's ability to have or obtain firearms, registration, background checks, the NFA, the GCA of 1968, Hughes Amendment, anything to that negatively affects guns or our ability to obtain one at all, is technically illegal under the 2nd Amendment, and considered high-treason. Punishable by the furthest extent of the law.
I bet our fore-fathers are rolling in their graves seeing how pussified we've become, and how we've let those leftist assclowns slowly take our rights away.
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Problem is It's not just the left taking our gun rights away and it literally never has been(just).
Anyway. 6.5CM is an amazing cartridge and I'm just glad hornady invented it. They are really looking out for us
In seriousness, now that I know I can fireform to SI with factory ammo I legit want a 300 PRC. Talk about best of both worlds.
Anyway. 6.5CM is an amazing cartridge and I'm just glad hornady invented it. They are really looking out for us
In seriousness, now that I know I can fireform to SI with factory ammo I legit want a 300 PRC. Talk about best of both worlds.
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I disagree. All things equal besides the chambering the 6.5 creed is not an ideal elk gun past 300 yards. That's pretty factual.
Cold Trigger Finger
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From the big truck load of caribou I've killed with my little 6.5 Creedmoor carbine. All but 1 were 1 shot kills. I can guarentee it is a caribou cartridge of the highest grade !!!
And it would work fine for moose in most situations.
I can't speak to elk hunting as I've never been elk hunting.
But then I only use TSX or bonded core bullets.
Lots of penetration and sufficient expansion to kill with authority.
And I'm a medium and large bore guy.
I guess there must be a lot of hype or something about the Creed that gets these discussions going.
I don't use mine for hunting before freeze up or after breakup because it's not what I classify as a brown bear cartridge.
But once it turns white up here. Its the only rifle I pack. (6 months of the year) .
Cold Trigger Finger
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Its not personal opinion that the 6.5s work Great. Long term documented fact.
IRISHMADMAN7RM
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140 grain for Elk? That's like shooting a hog with a 22 mag. might work, but not likely.
The Military has been using 7.62 for centuries, and after WWII ,the Corp Purchased Several Lots of Winchester 7MM. They preferred this cal for long range accuracy, but due to the lack of rounds produced ,it being a specialty cartridge, and the abundance of 7.62x51, the opted to stay with the .308.They will never use this round in there line up.
The Military has been using 7.62 for centuries, and after WWII ,the Corp Purchased Several Lots of Winchester 7MM. They preferred this cal for long range accuracy, but due to the lack of rounds produced ,it being a specialty cartridge, and the abundance of 7.62x51, the opted to stay with the .308.They will never use this round in there line up.
rustyshackleford
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That "fact" was established with 160 bullets though vs 140 gr. Monolithic or bonded bullets can definitely bump a cartridge up a weight class but the 6.5 bore is still considered the minimum effective bore for elk and maybe light for American moose. For hunting purposes even a 7mm-08 or 308 offers more energy at practical ranges. That's why people dislike the hype around the creed.
I've only shot one elk, a big bull. I used a 30-06 with Nosler 168grn partition (I reload). The shot was taken in heavy meadows so the range wasn't that long, a little over 100yds.
At the shot, he went to his knees then got up and proceeded to walk off about 20yds. Field dressing we saw his heart in 6 pieces, the bullet was lodged in his hide on the far side and had mushroomed perfectly.
Point is, I own a 6.5. Not a CM but 6.5-06AI (I call it a 30-06 on steroids). I can load up 160grn Matrix and match most bigger cartridges in velocity....but at longer distances it lacks the knock down energy of what most of those larger calibers can shoot. If I knew I'd be taking 400yrd+ shots, I'd be packing my 7RM. It's like someone else pointed out. I'd rather be ready to take the shot given to me rather than wait for the shot I should take.
The myths around the CM got people into thinking they can take shots at 600+yds at large animals....and they can, if they're really good. No offense to those who can, but most don't practice that. MOA or bigger @ 100yds and they're good....my 7RM shoots a 5 shot group at .68 MOA. Very confident in it's ability.
At the shot, he went to his knees then got up and proceeded to walk off about 20yds. Field dressing we saw his heart in 6 pieces, the bullet was lodged in his hide on the far side and had mushroomed perfectly.
Point is, I own a 6.5. Not a CM but 6.5-06AI (I call it a 30-06 on steroids). I can load up 160grn Matrix and match most bigger cartridges in velocity....but at longer distances it lacks the knock down energy of what most of those larger calibers can shoot. If I knew I'd be taking 400yrd+ shots, I'd be packing my 7RM. It's like someone else pointed out. I'd rather be ready to take the shot given to me rather than wait for the shot I should take.
The myths around the CM got people into thinking they can take shots at 600+yds at large animals....and they can, if they're really good. No offense to those who can, but most don't practice that. MOA or bigger @ 100yds and they're good....my 7RM shoots a 5 shot group at .68 MOA. Very confident in it's ability.
