WildRose
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I sight all of them 3" high at 100 and have a drop chart taped to the stock for anything beyond that.
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HARPERC
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Montana Rifles V2 Extreme Vantage. Although I'd prefer the barrel shorter.
Lots of good bullets, and ammunition available.
Lots of good bullets, and ammunition available.
WildRose
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Thanks Harper, it's the V2 I was thinking of not the X2. Personally I like the barrel length, it balances quite well.
HARPERC
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My .375 wears a 20" barrel, it likely makes up the 4"s weight in being a heavier taper.
Chronograph doesn't show enough loss that I worry much about it in the ranges I've used it.
The comments regarding the .375 Ruger as a choice are valid. Tough to let go of equipment that has served well though.
Lots of good new bullets out there.
Chronograph doesn't show enough loss that I worry much about it in the ranges I've used it.
The comments regarding the .375 Ruger as a choice are valid. Tough to let go of equipment that has served well though.
Lots of good new bullets out there.
MagnumManiac
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Why your guides recommend a 375 is eye opening, a 338 with a stout 250gr pill is ample on big bears, anyway I digress.
My own 375, a Weatherby version, is on a Win Model 70 Classic Stainless that I rechambered the factory barrel from H&H to the above.
Mine wears a Bushnell Elite 2-7x32 scope and is sighted for 3" high @ 100mtr with Woodleigh 300gr PP's. My load runs 2830fps +/- out of my 24" barrel and will clover at 100mtrs.
My rifle is in a HS Precision Classic Sporter stock with the Uncle Mikes recoil pad, wish it came with a Decellorater, but alas it didn't.
Off a bench recoil is stout but manageable, it feels harsher than my custom 416 Rigby that has a Decellorater on it.
If longer shots are on the cards, a good fast load in my rifle with a 260gr Accubond @ 3000fps really shoots flat, it is almost as flat as a 30-06 180gr load, and knocks stuff flat, even our huge water buff here.
I use this load on deer here and it is surprisingly flat shooting.
The 375 Ruger is only slightly behind my 375 Weatherby in velocity and is a good choice, however I like the Weatherby version a whole heap more.
Hope this helps you decide.
Cheers.
My own 375, a Weatherby version, is on a Win Model 70 Classic Stainless that I rechambered the factory barrel from H&H to the above.
Mine wears a Bushnell Elite 2-7x32 scope and is sighted for 3" high @ 100mtr with Woodleigh 300gr PP's. My load runs 2830fps +/- out of my 24" barrel and will clover at 100mtrs.
My rifle is in a HS Precision Classic Sporter stock with the Uncle Mikes recoil pad, wish it came with a Decellorater, but alas it didn't.
Off a bench recoil is stout but manageable, it feels harsher than my custom 416 Rigby that has a Decellorater on it.
If longer shots are on the cards, a good fast load in my rifle with a 260gr Accubond @ 3000fps really shoots flat, it is almost as flat as a 30-06 180gr load, and knocks stuff flat, even our huge water buff here.
I use this load on deer here and it is surprisingly flat shooting.
The 375 Ruger is only slightly behind my 375 Weatherby in velocity and is a good choice, however I like the Weatherby version a whole heap more.
Hope this helps you decide.
Cheers.
sable tireur
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Here is a link to reloading information for those Peregrines mentioned above:
http://peregrinebullets.co.za/reloading-data-vrg-vlr/
And don't forget to take a long look at the Hammer Hunters as well:
https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/375/
I am always fine with using nostalgia as a reason to own a rifle especially in traditional African cartridges. The 375 H&H is one of these but it is also an incredible cartridge of its own volition. I wouldn't hesitate to take it on a bear hunt in Alaska. But I would ask whether you reload or not as this can make a difference with the availability of factory ammunition and bullet construction.
Personally, I would opt for the .375 Ruger.
http://peregrinebullets.co.za/reloading-data-vrg-vlr/
And don't forget to take a long look at the Hammer Hunters as well:
https://hammerbullets.com/product-tag/375/
I am always fine with using nostalgia as a reason to own a rifle especially in traditional African cartridges. The 375 H&H is one of these but it is also an incredible cartridge of its own volition. I wouldn't hesitate to take it on a bear hunt in Alaska. But I would ask whether you reload or not as this can make a difference with the availability of factory ammunition and bullet construction.
Personally, I would opt for the .375 Ruger.
David Zimprich
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Thank you sir, very good information I am 6'2" and weight is 215, I have my dads old Remington pump in .306 caliber and I can feel the recoil on it. I need to put a recoil pad on it, right now it only has a steel pad. He had shot plenty of moose with it. Moose is on my bucket list as well. Again thank you for your advice, I will stay in touch with you.
David
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Lefty7mmstw
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hey David,
longtime 375h&h guy here... I've been loading the 300tsx in my rem700 DG lightweight 375 (straight 6 Nikon Monarch on top) for 10 years and owned a win m70 in 375 some years before the remmy came along. The m70 can be a decent rifle, but it has a lot of taper in the chamber throat so it likely will only eat 300grain slugs decently; you likely won't be able to load 250-270 in it and get decent accuracy easily.. That was my experience with my rifle and my Pops ss m70 in 375 anyway.
As far as capability of the round; the proof's in the pudding. The 375 ruger was designed to approximate 375h&h in a 20" bbl. whilst the 375h&h needs a 24" bbl. to get the same speeds. The ruger will best the h&h but you will have an easier time finding more ammo for your h&h in most areas. I can get between 2550 and 2650 fps with a 300 grain pill in my 375h&h and Hodgdon only shows one load faster in the ruger at 2660 fps for a 300grain. Basically it comes down to rifle choice here as they are close enough you will not notice the difference on game.
longtime 375h&h guy here... I've been loading the 300tsx in my rem700 DG lightweight 375 (straight 6 Nikon Monarch on top) for 10 years and owned a win m70 in 375 some years before the remmy came along. The m70 can be a decent rifle, but it has a lot of taper in the chamber throat so it likely will only eat 300grain slugs decently; you likely won't be able to load 250-270 in it and get decent accuracy easily.. That was my experience with my rifle and my Pops ss m70 in 375 anyway.
As far as capability of the round; the proof's in the pudding. The 375 ruger was designed to approximate 375h&h in a 20" bbl. whilst the 375h&h needs a 24" bbl. to get the same speeds. The ruger will best the h&h but you will have an easier time finding more ammo for your h&h in most areas. I can get between 2550 and 2650 fps with a 300 grain pill in my 375h&h and Hodgdon only shows one load faster in the ruger at 2660 fps for a 300grain. Basically it comes down to rifle choice here as they are close enough you will not notice the difference on game.
HARPERC
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....Why your guides recommend a 375 is eye opening, a 338 with a stout 250gr pill is ample on big bears, anyway I digress.
My own 375, a Weatherby version, is on a Win Model 70 Classic Stainless that I rechambered the factory barrel from H&H to the above....
Good bullets always-in the larger .338's the Swift 275 A-Frame is a solid choice.
The Weatherby variant has a lot going for it.
HARPERC
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[QUOTE="sable tireur, post: 1508880, member: 27307".........But I would ask whether you reload or not as this can make a difference with the availability of factory ammunition and bullet construction.......[/QUOTE]
Custom reloaders available. Hammer will load you any bullet you wish, but their line has good choices.
Custom reloaders available. Hammer will load you any bullet you wish, but their line has good choices.
All good advice here.
Some things to Consider:
1. Alaska isn't a problem like Africa, but I can tell you every shop in AK or Africa do carry 375 H&H ammo. There is always a chance the Airline misplaces a bag or a customs agent has a bug up his rear.
2. If you load your own ammo either of these will be excellent cartridges but factory choices of ammo around the world there is no comparison. BTW-- loading the 200-220gr bullets on the light end are extremely accurate, low recoil and awesome medicine on thin skinned game.
H&H been around a long time and the Ruger has been a hanging in there too.
Its like a 1968 vs. 2018 Camaro. One is a classic that everyone knows, the other is just a cool car everyone will forget about when the new model comes out...No offense to anyone.
Some things to Consider:
1. Alaska isn't a problem like Africa, but I can tell you every shop in AK or Africa do carry 375 H&H ammo. There is always a chance the Airline misplaces a bag or a customs agent has a bug up his rear.
2. If you load your own ammo either of these will be excellent cartridges but factory choices of ammo around the world there is no comparison. BTW-- loading the 200-220gr bullets on the light end are extremely accurate, low recoil and awesome medicine on thin skinned game.
H&H been around a long time and the Ruger has been a hanging in there too.
Its like a 1968 vs. 2018 Camaro. One is a classic that everyone knows, the other is just a cool car everyone will forget about when the new model comes out...No offense to anyone.
eastbank
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one thing for sure you can buy .375 H&H ammo world wide. I used a CZ 550 in Africa on five hunts and 90 percent of the 61 animals I shot with the .375 H&H stayed shot. I have two 375 H&H,s, a Remington classic and the CZ 550.
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Jerry M
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I have a .375 H&H Sako with fiberglass stock. 300 Hornady RN (not the new ones) stomped a Cape Buffalo and a lion in 2013. Actually, I could have used a softer bullet for the first shot on the lion.
As stated above it is very popular an available world wide. That may or may not be the case with other .375 versions.
I had a .458 WM and was going to use that for my African hunt. But after firing 100 full power 400 grain bullet loads, I realized I could not handle that much recoil. The rifle would give me whiplash! I immediately purchased the Sako used from Cabala's. I stopped having whiplash problems with this rifle. Sometime too much of a good thing is not necessarily better.
Good luck
Jerry
As stated above it is very popular an available world wide. That may or may not be the case with other .375 versions.
I had a .458 WM and was going to use that for my African hunt. But after firing 100 full power 400 grain bullet loads, I realized I could not handle that much recoil. The rifle would give me whiplash! I immediately purchased the Sako used from Cabala's. I stopped having whiplash problems with this rifle. Sometime too much of a good thing is not necessarily better.
Good luck
Jerry
HARPERC
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Muzzle brakes, cause the 60+ year old me, realizes the 25 year old me is long gone.
