.30 PRC

Well, I hope they make some good brass for this version, because if it's a necked down 375, I already have the improved version that I've been shooting for a few years now. I could EASILY fire form it to mine. I have run the 225's over 3100' in my 28" barrel. 375 Ruger left with my 30/375 S.I.
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I got a bit more information from someone else familiar with the cartridge. It was intended to produce a fast .30 that reduced the case capacity enough to overcome the velocity swings the .300 Norma had when shooting at high angles.

Reduced case capacity by 4gr but load densitys are still the close to the same. That doesn't seem to valid when a 300 Norma has an h20 cap. Of 103 gr and pushes a 230berger around 2950fps with ~85 gr of h-1000 and a 30-375 has an h20 cap of 99 gr and pushes the same bullet around 2900-2925fps with ~81-83 gr of h-1000. Wouldnt load density be near identical? And wouldnt a rifle and cartridge case at an inclined angle not have a more consistent ignition than when shooting prone and the case is on its side with powder settling towards the bottom against the case body with air space up top along the case body? Then again it seems irrelevant when you are running at load densitys over 95% which I believe both of these cases can achieve with ideal powders. My numbers may be slightly off with the 30-375 ruger as I've never loaded for one but they are close. I do know when I was shooting my buddy's 300 Norma last week in the Texas Hill Country at angles there was no lack of accuracy out to 1200 yards even though these were not Rocky Mountain angles I don't think it would be a huge difference. Reloaders have Peterson, lapua, Norma, and Bertram brass for the 300 Norma. They will most likely only have Hornady brass for the 30 PRC. Hornady does manufacture affordable accurate factory ammo. It would be a slight step above the 300 Win in factory offerings but overtaking the 300 win to make any real ballistic difference would have to be ~900yards and further. At that point a high degree of accuracy is needed to harvest game. Accuracy that is usually only achieved by hand loading which Hornady brass has not been ideal for in the past. But who knows if Hornady markets the 30 PRC like they did the 6.5 creedmoor it may sell more than the 300 win mag or 300 Norma ever did. Regardless if it really is a huge advancement of what's already available or not.
 
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Reduced case capacity by 4gr but load densitys are still the close to the same. That doesn't seem to valid when a 300 Norma has an h20 cap. Of 103 gr and pushes a 230berger around 2950fps with ~85 gr of h-1000 and a 30-375 has an h20 cap of 99 gr and pushes the same bullet around 2900-2925fps with ~81-83 gr of h-1000. Wouldnt load density be near identical? And wouldnt a rifle and cartridge case at an inclined angle not have a more consistent ignition than when shooting prone and the case is on its side with powder settling towards the bottom against the case body with air space up top along the case body? Then again it seems irrelevant when you are running at load densitys over 95% which I believe both of these cases can achieve with ideal powders. My numbers may be slightly off with the 30-375 ruger as I've never loaded for one but they are close. I do know when I was shooting my buddy's 300 Norma last week in the Texas Hill Country at angles there was no lack of accuracy out to 1200 yards even though these were not Rocky Mountain angles I don't think it would be a huge difference. Reloaders have Peterson, lapua, Norma, and Bertram brass for the 300 Norma. They will most likely only have Hornady brass for the 300 PRC. Hornady does manufacture affordable accurate factory ammo. It would be a slight step above the 300 Win in factory offerings but overtaking the 300 win to make any real ballistic difference would have to be ~900yards and further. At that point a high degree of accuracy is needed to harvest game. Accuracy that is usually only achieved by hand loading which Hornady brass has not been ideal for in the past. But who knows if Hornady markets the 300 PRC like they did the 6.5 creedmoor it may sell more than the 300 win mag or 300 Norma ever did. Regardless if it really is a huge advancement of what's already available or not.

I wish I knew the data that went into the statement made to me, because I've never heard anything from anywhere else but positive things about the .300 Norma. That being said, I can confidently say my buddy that made the statement probably has more subject matter expertise and experience with the .300 Norma than anyone else after leading an extensive, multi-year evaluation of the cartridge.
 
Looks like repackaging the Hornady 300 HSM (Hornady Super Magnum) they did a few years ago. Dave Tooley built me a LR pistol on it and shot great. I have seen Dave shoot at 1000 with it, held 4 inch vertical at 1000 and took 3rd at 2016 1000 Yard IBS Nationals. Absolutely nothing wrong with the brass either.
 
I wish I knew the data that went into the statement made to me, because I've never heard anything from anywhere else but positive things about the .300 Norma. That being said, I can confidently say my buddy that made the statement probably has more subject matter expertise and experience with the .300 Norma than anyone else after leading an extensive, multi-year evaluation of the cartridge.

I would like the see the data behind it as well. Just speculating on the subject. It's real close to the 30 nosler, just a slightly longer case and a .534 body.
 
Looks like repackaging the Hornady 300 HSM (Hornady Super Magnum) they did a few years ago. Dave Tooley built me a LR pistol on it and shot great. I have seen Dave shoot at 1000 with it, held 4 inch vertical at 1000 and took 3rd at 2016 1000 Yard IBS Nationals. Absolutely nothing wrong with the brass either.

Dave Tooley has been very involved in this project as a subject matter expert, from what I understand.

I would like the see the data behind it as well. Just speculating on the subject. It's real close to the 30 nosler, just a slightly longer case and a .534 body.

It is a bit less velocity than the Nosler, but the rebated rim of the Nosler was not desirable by the folks testing it who wanted 100% feeding reliability more than maximum velocities.
 
I am sure its just my inexperience or how I stack up +/- . If what is being described is accurate this is a RUM length case but has the body reduced to the diameter or the RUMs rebated rim. They loose the rebated rim of the Nosler and larger bolt face of the NM but now have a case that is so long you loose even more capacity to bullet inset unless you run something like a wyatts 4.1" extended box or are single loading.
 
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I am sure its just my inexperience or how I stack up +/- . If what is being described is accurate this is a RUM length case but has the body reduced to the diameter or the RUMs rebated rim. They loose the rebated rim of the Nosler and larger bolt face of the NM but now have a case that is so long you loose even more capacity to bullet inset unless you run something like a wyatts 4.1" extended box or are single loading.

The .300 RUM is 2.850 and the parent of this case, the .375 Ruger, is 2.580. So actually this case should be a lot shorter than the RUM. Of course I'm not exactly sure what the final dimensions will be.
 
I am sure its just my inexperience or how I stack up +/- . If what is being described is accurate this is a RUM length case but has the body reduced to the diameter or the RUMs rebated rim. They loose the rebated rim of the Nosler and larger bolt face of the NM but now have a case that is so long you loose even more capacity to bullet inset unless you run something like a wyatts 4.1" extended box or are single loading.

The dimensions I come up with from Dave Tooley's posts are:

COAL 2.6"
Rim .532"
Case head .532"
Shoulder angle 30 degrees
Neck length over .300"
Capacity of 75-80gr "depending on powder"
 
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