$14,000 rifle?

"If", I had $14 K to spend on a rifle, it would be a side by side 470 Nitro

And in 20 years you'd have a rifle likely worth double what you paid for it instead of half.

I can only imagine what my house, truck, boat, cabin, wife, and girlfriends would look like...

If I bought a $14,000 rifle; I know what my wife would look like, but the memory of it would soon be erased by the shovel to the temple.
 
With the driven recent popularity of "long range hunting", most of this **** has gotten ridiculously expensive.

Companies like that, that charge retarded prices for stuff, will eventually fold and go under. 95% of shooters out there can't afford a rifle that costs $5,000 (including myself), so they **** sure can't afford a rifle that costs 3x that much. It will hit them eventually when they realize their guns are no better than any other custom rifle you can have built by a local smith with a good reputation for less than $2,000.
They have a brilliant setup; you buy a rifle, go to their class, then get to hunt on their property and shoot an animal over 600yards your 1st time out. No more "learning the ropes".
 
They have a brilliant setup; you buy a rifle, go to their class, then get to hunt on their property and shoot an animal over 600yards your 1st time out. No more "learning the ropes".
Yeah, but that's complete bullcrap and instill and builds up a false-confidence in people. They think, "Well, 600 was easy, so I bet I can go shoot 1,000 next time!" :rolleyes: This will only produce yuppies who still don't know how to do anything for themselves. They don't REALLY know how to shoot, they don't have a clue how to build precision ammo, no idea how to build a drop chart, or determine their drops, and they still don't know anything about their weapon/weapons other than what little bit they were taught at the class.

Other than my opinions on it, if someone's got the money, go for it.
 
There are those who think if you pay enough for the right gun that makes up for training and experience. I heard a guy recently talking about long range shooting that stated that the hard part is setting the scope up for the shot. That if you got behind the gun after the marksman had the scope set up then anyone could make the shot! Of course wind never changes, trigger pull is not important and mirage is never a factor, right?
I was at the range one day and the guy next to me had a custom rig that had probably cost well north of $5,000. It was 6.5CM. He was frustrated because it was guaranteed to shoot factory ammo in 3/8 moa and he was shooting groups about 1/2 - 3/4 moa. I was in load development for the 6.5x47L barrel I had just put on my Savage 110 and all my loads were shooting smaller groups than his rifle. His brother was there helping him and we talked a bit. I tried to offer a suggestion or two but they were not well received so I didn't go any further. Had to be the rifle, right? He was talking about sending it back since it would not shoot as guaranteed!
 
Yeah, but that's complete bullcrap and instill and builds up a false-confidence in people. They think, "Well, 600 was easy, so I bet I can go shoot 1,000 next time!" :rolleyes: This will only produce yuppies who still don't know how to do anything for themselves. They don't REALLY know how to shoot, they don't have a clue how to build precision ammo, no idea how to build a drop chart, or determine their drops, and they still don't know anything about their weapon/weapons other than what little bit they were taught at the class.

Other than my opinions on it, if someone's got the money, go for it.

That same exact argument has been said over and over since John Burns and the BOTW team brought LRH to the public eye...
 
Let me start by saying, I am still a novice when it comes to long range shooting and reloading. But I am learning more and more about it every time I shoot. I have a trued and barreled R700 that shoots great! It was far cheaper then 14k. I know my skill level, and only take game at the distances I know I will kill at. These guys have created a brand with their TV show and great marketing. It seems to me these guys that buy into this sort of thing, think shooting LR is easy and anyone can do it with a 14k rifle. It creates a false sense of confidence and ability. I don't think it's good for the sport, or the game that are being shot at, and wounded.
 
That same exact argument has been said over and over since John Burns and the BOTW team brought LRH to the public eye...
Was he wrong? Look at how many dumb yuppies go out and think that buying a 6.5CM with factory Hornady ammo and slapping a cheap hi-mag scope on it will instantly make them a 1K BR shooter? I've seen and heard it personally MANY times while standing in stores. I personally witnessed a conversation between 2 college-aged dumbasses about how one of the guy's wanted to shoot deer at long range (he specified 400 yards), and that his .30-06 or .300WM (can't remember which one he said) wouldn't do it, so he "NEEDED" a .338 Lapua. :rolleyes: This is the mentality of people that most never get to see, unless you spend lots of time hanging out in gun stores (I used to work at one). These are the idiots that make our sport look bad.

For once, I'm not picking on the CM, as it's not the cartridge's fault that idiots have flocked to it, but it's just the most commonly purchased cartridge that the idiot newbs choose to buy, because it's trendy and has rumors of magical powers. I AM however, ripping apart the mentality of society as a whole, that has degraded to the level of "instant expert" because they don't know how to work for anything these days. Between participation trophies, smartphones in their pockets, and Call of Duty on Xbox, it seems like most don't have a clue what building REAL shooting skills means.
 
I'm not buying the rifle, but running down those that do is over the top. We all have our quirks, and a $14000 rifle is healthier than many.

How many have more than $14000 in guns in the safe?
Agreed... The "insanity" can be linked to any one of us, who pays $70,000 for a new pickup, and by the time it's paid off, between maintenance and up keep, you will have dropped over $100,000 in it, and it will be worth $25,000 or less. Heck as soon as it driven off the lot, it takes a $20,000 hit.
 
I'm not buying the rifle, but running down those that do is over the top. We all have our quirks, and a $14000 rifle is healthier than many.

How many have more than $14000 in guns in the safe?
I'm not running them down. I'm running down society's mentality. Re-read post #34... I said that it's my personal opinion, but if someone wants it and has the money for it, go for it.

Having more than $14K in guns vs. buying 1 gun for $14K are 2 totally different things.

To put it like Gohring said, someone might have $100,000 tied-up between multiple vehicles... But spending $100,000 on ONE vehicle, is a bit outrageous. That's my personal opinion. Someone else might feel the opposite. And that's their personal opinion. You gotta do what works for you, but when someone says they think something is ostentatious or stupid, that's their right to feel that way.
 
With the driven recent popularity of "long range hunting", most of this **** has gotten ridiculously expensive.

Companies like that, that charge retarded prices for stuff, will eventually fold and go under. 95% of shooters out there can't afford a rifle that costs $5,000 (including myself), so they **** sure can't afford a rifle that costs 3x that much. It will hit them eventually when they realize their guns are no better than any other custom rifle you can have built by a local smith with a good reputation for less than $2,000.


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Dang MUD, :D
That sums it up as far as I am concerned and is very true.
It is not any better than a well made $2,000.00 rifle and it is definitely
not 7 times better.

J E CUSTOM
 
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