Recent content by Bullseye

Wow, that's your "Hornady is telling people to go kill stuff at extreme range" argument? C'mon man, that's disappointing. I'm not telling you to like Hornady, but why embellish your claims and spread all the hate? Plus, 400 yards with that 143gr ELD-X still has over 1400 ft lbs and a velocity...

Still on that kick Rusty? Where is Hornady saying this? Because they advertise a bullet or ammo product that they do say "works at conventional or extended range" you translate that as "go kill stuff at extreme range"? Where are these ads?

Wow, this post perfectly sums up this whole thread. The 6.5 CM is the most successful new cartridge in many decades. It's kept the lights on for a number of companies since the slowdown after the 16 election and the general consensus here is, "get off my lawn!"

In pure velocity, sure. Not in the low EV's wanted for hits on small targets at ELR. No having to worry about powder up versus powder down variations like in the big fat Norma case. Is that being lazy?

Higher first shot hit percentages. You don't need to take my word for it though.

okay, and also developed the 6.5 PRC for those that like the benefits of the 6.5 Creedmoor but want more energy.

Dude... old news. http://soldiersystems.net/2018/12/12/hornady-to-supply-300-prc-ammunition-to-us-dod/ RE 6.5 CM/260 - you've stumbled on part of the problem. The SAAMI spec has been 1:9" forever on the 260, 6.5 Rem Mag, 264 Win Mag. Tons of rifles have been chambered in that. For Hornady do...

Creating a new product and wanting to sell it = whoring-out. Got it... 6.5 CM is reinvention of the 260 - not hardly. If the 260 didn't have a 1:9" twist, had better throat design and more room to set out long, heavy bullets the Creedmoor wouldn't have needed to be designed. 6.5 PRC is a...

Part of the point is that you don't HAVE to hand load. You can buy factory ammo and have fun past a mile without breaking the bank. While you can hand load a Win Mag to whatever you want, factory ammo, at least if you are loading to SAAMI specs, is a limitation. Max COL of 3.340" and a case of...

and you're perpetuating what lowdowndirtybugger said about it - yet where are these Hornady advertisements? Again, please be specific. If we're lying, where is it?

So what you're saying is, if Remington had created the 260 Rem with a faster twist and ammo that actually shot well with bullets that people actually wanted to use, it would have been popular. Yeah... so, if Rem had done the 260 right (basically making it a Creedmoor), it would be so popular...

I don't disagree that people don't always do their needed research. What I'm getting at is where Hornady actually said it was superior to the 300 Win mag? At least in the context of this thread about terminal performance. Shootability sure, but that's not really what is being discussed.

Shorter? No. Is it BS Hype to make a 300 Magnum cartridge that can have SAAMI spec factory ammo with 225gr+ projectiles? Nobody is saying you can't handload your Win Mag and do whatever you want. Why not also have a cartridge that is spec'd for the fun bullets people want to use for LR and not...

Really? Where? Please be specific.

That was specifically a comparison with 6.5-284 ammo pricing. Of course it's going to be a bit more expensive then CM/260.