Prayers for the Nashville Community

[adk hunter]

I am so disgusted on the rhetoric. Either side of gun control. We need an action plan now!
Why don't we "hire" our own already trained service men and women? Give them a purpose. A most noble assignment to protection our most precious. Our children!
Real, tangible duty to our own.
In the national guard? You are on duty at your local school one week a month and that counts as war zone time served.
In the Army? Are you a logistical specialist?? You get to make a battle plan for your state.
Prayers for the people who have the means to figure this out!
This is fixable.

 

[hesse]

Here is the issue as I see it . The country was founded by God fearing men that had a moral compass lived by the Golden rule. that is something you don't see much of anymore which is sad(I do see that with this group people helping each other out you feel the brotherhood even though you don't know the person ). You can't change what is in someone's mind our soul. We need harden soft target

 

[Mark37082]

There is no perfect solution to these issues. We have to rely on people to do the right thing, but this is an impossible goal. People are always the weak link in the best laid plans. The best we can hope to achieve is to limit the frequency and severity of these events. Politicizing this is deplorable. I realize "Red Flag" laws can be viewed as gun control by some, but I would rather see some potentially extremely emotionally disturbed people be inconvenienced and evaluated than ignore the warning signs. It may be a slippery slope if left to the extreme views of some of our politicians, but we have to address the mentally ill and criminal people living among us.

 

[xsn10s]

There is no perfect solution to these issues. We have to rely on people to do the right thing, but this is an impossible goal. People are always the weak link in the best laid plans. The best we can hope to achieve is to limit the frequency and severity of these events. Politicizing this is deplorable. I realize "Red Flag" laws can be viewed as gun control by some, but I would rather see some potentially extremely emotionally disturbed people be inconvenienced and evaluated than ignore the warning signs. It may be a slippery slope if left to the extreme views of some of our politicians, but we have to address the mentally ill and criminal people living among us.

I can understand where you're coming from but the red flag laws will not make anyone more secure imo. Those who choose to do evil attacks will find another weapon to do their evil bidding's. And it is a slippery slope as you had mentioned. IMO the solution is to harden the schools by making them more secure. The shooters gained easy access to the school. That should never happen. It's much easier and cheaper to secure the schools with secure locked entry ways. That would give the police, security, or even staff time to address the threat. It's the same as personal protection. The police will always have a lag time to respond, that's just logistics no matter how hard they try. It's up to the individual to provide personal protection. Just my opinion from the peanut gallery.

 

[338 dude]

There is no perfect solution to these issues. We have to rely on people to do the right thing, but this is an impossible goal. People are always the weak link in the best laid plans. The best we can hope to achieve is to limit the frequency and severity of these events. Politicizing this is deplorable. I realize "Red Flag" laws can be viewed as gun control by some, but I would rather see some potentially extremely emotionally disturbed people be inconvenienced and evaluated than ignore the warning signs. It may be a slippery slope if left to the extreme views of some of our politicians, but we have to address the mentally ill and criminal people living among us.

I understand and agree with the sentiment that something has to be done. I absolutely do not think this is the way to go about it. It is already being used against innocent people, and would only get much worse in my opinion, but we are all entitled to our opinions, and I definitely respect yours as much as my own.

 

[338 dude]

I can understand where you're coming from but the red flag laws will not make anyone more secure imo. Those who choose to do evil attacks will find another weapon to do their evil bidding's. And it is a slippery slope as you had mentioned. IMO the solution is to harden the schools by making them more secure. The shooters gained easy access to the school. That should never happen. It's much easier and cheaper to secure the schools with secure locked entry ways. That would give the police, security, or even staff time to address the threat. It's the same as personal protection. The police will always have a lag time to respond, that's just logistics no matter how hard they try. It's up to the individual to provide personal protection. Just my opinion from the peanut gallery.

It is of my opinion that we need to have armed personnel on every school campus. The doors were locked in Nashville. It only took Second to get through them the only way in my opinion it's too harden schools and guard them with guns like we do politicians our money, and anything else that is not nearly as important as our children.

 

[xsn10s]

It is of my opinion that we need to have armed personnel on every school campus. The doors were locked in Nashville. It only took Second to get through them the only way in my opinion it's too harden schools and guard them with guns like we do politicians our money, and anything else that is not nearly as important as our children.

Armed personnel would be part of my plan too. I lost friends and quintessences over that opinion. But I wouldn't consider those doors locked, or a better description secured. Large glass doors like that are easily defeated, as are large glass windows. They might be aesthetically appealing because of the feel of openness but we saw how easy they were defeated. Smaller windows or bullet proof glass with re-enforce doors would of stopped that shooter.

 

[338 dude]

Armed personnel would be part of my plan too. I lost friends and quintessences over that opinion. But I wouldn't consider those doors locked, or a better description secured. Large glass doors like that are easily defeated, as are large glass windows. They might be aesthetically appealing because of the feel of openness but we saw how easy they were defeated. Smaller windows or bullet proof glass with re-enforce doors would of stopped that shooter.

I was hesitant to say anything, but at the same time I feel, I must voice my opinion on the matter, trying not to have this thread, turn political or offend anyone!

 

[Mark37082]

As I think through this more, I just don't trust our leaders to take a common sense approach in dealing with mentally ill and criminals. I completely agree with hardening schools. I really appreciate your input and perspectives. We should not make decisions when emotionally charged.

 

[SeboCreek]

The one sector of the armed officers in schools say it frightens the children. I think that the ones frightened are them because they fear that the young, innocent and not yet propagandized children will see that these are friends not enemies as these people try to portray them. These are the defund the police people who by saying this are trying to smear all law enforcement and make them appear as enemies.

 

[xsn10s]

As I think through this more, I just don't trust our leaders to take a common sense approach in dealing with mentally ill and criminals. I completely agree with hardening schools. I really appreciate your input and perspectives. We should not make decisions when emotionally charged.

It's very easy to do, I've done it. That's why we should pray. I continue to pray for my guidance and healing as well as yours and your community's.

 

[Sockeye66]

Prayers for the children and staff that were taken from this world far too soon, along with their famillies and loved ones. Prayers for the children, staff, and law enforcement who were in the school or responded. Prayers for all of us as it effects everyone. The factors as to why these horrific acts occur all to often in these times vs why it rarely occured in my childhood (70's and 80's) should be considered. Firearms could be purchased by anyone with the cash, no questions asked in sporting goods stores and hardware stores throughout the US during my childhood. The biggest differences IMO are the internet, and the violence our youth are feed through video games. Video games now are not Pac-Man and Asteroids, they're largely unregulated trainings videos on how to operate firearms and kill as many people in the shortest time possible, and the addiction to these games is staggering. Internet news glorifies the perpetrators of these cowardly acts and makes them far more famous than the victims. Neither of these issues will be confronted IMO by anyone who is in the position to make a difference because of the revenue created by them. I worked 17 years in a public school system, knowing I was the first line of defense for children under my watch and the countless bus rides with teams headed to games, always vigilant for trouble and ready to use whatever defense available if a situation had arisen.

 

[338 dude]

Prayers for the children and staff that were taken from this world far too soon, along with their famillies and loved ones. Prayers for the children, staff, and law enforcement who were in the school or responded. Prayers for all of us as it affects everyone. The factors as to why these horrific acts occur all to often in these times vs why it rarely occured in my childhood (70's and 80's) should be considered. Firearms could be purchased by anyone with the cash, no questions asked in sporting goods stores and hardware stores throughout the US during my childhood. The biggest differences IMO are the internet, and the violence our youth are feed through video games. Video games now are not Pac-Man and Asteroids, they're largely unregulated trainings videos on how to operate firearms and kill as many people in the shortest time possible, and the addiction to these games is staggering. Internet news glorifies the perpetrators of these cowardly acts and makes them far more famous than the victims. Neither of these issues will be confronted IMO by anyone who is in the position to make a difference because of the revenue created by them. I worked 17 years in a public school system, knowing I was the first line of defense for children under my watch and the countless bus rides with teams headed to games, always vigilant for trouble and ready to use whatever defense available if a situation had arisen.

It's been shared on the very forum when I was going to school high school in particular late 70s early 80s they were rifles in the back windows of nearly every pick up truck and there was a buck 110 in my pocket every single day and you never heard of anything like this happening!

 

[DUCKMAN11]

There is no perfect solution to these issues. We have to rely on people to do the right thing, but this is an impossible goal. People are always the weak link in the best laid plans. The best we can hope to achieve is to limit the frequency and severity of these events. Politicizing this is deplorable. I realize "Red Flag" laws can be viewed as gun control by some, but I would rather see some potentially extremely emotionally disturbed people be inconvenienced and evaluated than ignore the warning signs. It may be a slippery slope if left to the extreme views of some of our politicians, but we have to address the mentally ill and criminal people living among us.

Yes address the mentally ill and criminals....bottom line!

Red flag laws scare the crap out of me.
1 disgruntled employee or mad ex-wife and poof...there goes your hunting season!