Carbon or something else?

Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
 
Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
More cleaning and pictures
Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
More cleaning with jb and with pictures
Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
More cleaning with jb! picture is14270 is I think the throat are I'm not sure what to call it , pictures 14264 is right before leade starts. Picture 14263 Is right after the leade 1-2 inches. It's starting to look better to me what y'all thinking By the way did 35 in and out cycles this round!
 

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Tribb, I'm no expert but I think your there, I've never owned a bore scope ,but I'd still say you're doing Excellent work , your friend needs to Treat you for being so thorough and kind to his rifle ,👏👏👏that barrel wasn't that clean when it was brand new!!!, heck you'll have to teach the owner to break it in , I'm proud of you😆,you have helped many more people then you think ,Congrats my Friend and let me be the first to toast your Wonderful work 🍻🥳😆👏🥳👏,Cheers and thks for the great posts 👍👍👍🍀
 
Tribb, I'm no expert but I think your there, I've never owned a bore scope ,but I'd still say you're doing Excellent work , your friend needs to Treat you for being so thorough and kind to his rifle ,👏👏👏that barrel wasn't that clean when it was brand new!!!, heck you'll have to teach the owner to break it in , I'm proud of you😆,you have helped many more people then you think ,Congrats my Friend and let me be the first to toast your Wonderful work 🍻🥳😆👏🥳👏,Cheers and thks for the great posts 👍👍👍🍀
Thanks Sir
 
You have come a long ways......but if you are serious about it.....you have a long ways to go.....
I wouldn't stop half way.....that dark color is carbon...needs to be broken up...then soaked again to get the carbon suck up the cleaner....then brushed again...and then again......
 
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Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
OK the dirty barrel has been soaking three days full of marvel mystery oil !!! May start more scrubbing on the 26!! We will see !!!! Merry Christmas to everyone on the forum. Tribb
 
Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
Latest pictures and cleaning results!!!! I'm curious to know what to know what that little line is at the very beginning of the lead at the toe if you will of the lead, perhaps someone can tell me? Pic 084 show the leade and that line pic 093 shows just in front of leade pic 091 shows just in back of the leade(toward the butt of rifle. Please comment thanks
Need some help here . I am not familiar with carbon rings at all . This is in my friends rifle I was starting load development for hammer Hunter bullets and found this!!! Picture on the left is a photo of the display on the bore scope as all of the pictures are! Is the white fuzz y stuff reflection or spider webbs? (I don't know how to attach it to my android phone) I tried to show the throat area and what I thought 🤔 was the carbon ring with copper from the dummy round I made up! Yes it stuck in the barrel and tapped out easily! You can see the rough ring around the dummy bullet in the right picture.I believe the bullet may have pulled out of the case a bit when I ejected the round. The third picture is a close up of ( copper ? ) in the throat. Thanks for all your thoughts,comments and or advice .
 

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Latest pictures and cleaning results!!!! I'm curious to know what to know what that little line is at the very beginning of the lead at the toe if you will of the lead, perhaps someone can tell me? Pic 084 show the leade and that line pic 093 shows just in front of leade pic 091 shows just in back of the leade(toward the butt of rifle. Please comment thanks

You dang near have it squeaky clean.

I think the line you're referring to in pic 084 is just the end of where the leade is cut and transitions to the bore, if it is that circumferential line that's right at the start of the lands. It's a bit odd looking compared to others I've seen because it looks like it's an abrupt step instead of a smooth transition.

If it doesn't shoot well after getting it squeaky clean, I'd take a look there and the next couple inches into the bore after shooting just a few rounds on a clean bore to see if it's stripping copper. It could be and that could be very bad for accuracy, but the best way to find out is shoot it and see if it's acceptable.
 
You dang near have it squeaky clean.

I think the line you're referring to in pic 084 is just the end of where the leade is cut and transitions to the bore, if it is that circumferential line that's right at the start of the lands. It's a bit odd looking compared to others I've seen because it looks like it's an abrupt step instead of a smooth transition.

If it doesn't shoot well after getting it squeaky clean, I'd take a look there and the next couple inches into the bore after shooting just a few rounds on a clean bore to see if it's stripping copper. It could be and that could be very bad for accuracy, but the best way to find out is shoot it and see if it's acceptable.
You think a little more j.b. is in order? I'll be sure and scope it after the first shot and a few more shots after that !8
 
You think a little more j.b. is in order? I'll be sure and scope it after the first shot and a few more shots after that !8

Everything passed the chamber end looks clean as can be. Looks like there's a bit of carbon at the end of the chamber . Very minor. It may not hurt anything to leave it but might as well learn how to get it out since you're cleaning to metal.

Put an oversized bronze brush on. If the bore is a 30 cal, use a 338 brush, etc. Put it into the chamber until you just start to feel resistance. Put the borescope in through the muzzle and use it to get your brush on the end of the chamber but not in the lands. Mark a reference line or tape your rod so you know how far in to go.

Use some cleaner... Hoppes, JB, whatever on the brush and rotate it in the correct spot. Repeat til clean.
 
I bought on of those 3 or 4 piece rods, so the last piece is like a foot or foot and a half. I put an oversized nylon brush, wrap it with a patch, put on iosso or similar, and use the drill to rotate. Carbon ring cleaning is a snap now.
 
Everything passed the chamber end looks clean as can be. Looks like there's a bit of carbon at the end of the chamber . Very minor. It may not hurt anything to leave it but might as well learn how to get it out since you're cleaning to metal.

Put an oversized bronze brush on. If the bore is a 30 cal, use a 338 brush, etc. Put it into the chamber until you just start to feel resistance. Put the borescope in through the muzzle and use it to get your brush on the end of the chamber but not in the lands. Mark a reference line or tape your rod so you know how far in to go.

Use some cleaner... Hoppes, JB, whatever on the brush and rotate it in the correct spot. Repeat til clean.
That's a good trick I like it!!! Thanks
 
I bought on of those 3 or 4 piece rods, so the last piece is like a foot or foot and a half. I put an oversized nylon brush, wrap it with a patch, put on iosso or similar, and use the drill to rotate. Carbon ring cleaning is a snap now.
Thanks ill give it a try
 
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