Ok, Hornay, one of my favorite companies did it again.-A New Mono on the Market

[WildRose]

Came across this last night.

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/cx#!/#product-line

Hornady seems to have recognized the trend towards mono's and has come into the market with their own new offering.

I've been a really big fan of Hornady for better than 30 years since I first started shooting their varmint bullets when I was hiding and doing predator control and shot their Interbond, in my opinion the best bonded bullet in the US for as long as they were manufactured.

Once I get things set up again I'm going to have to try their CX bullets.

If nothing else I'll have to give the 190gr 30 cal and 250gr .375's a ride just for fun.

 

[CMP70306]

Curious to see how the CX compares to the GMX, did they actually come up with a new design or did they tweak the GMX and call it by a new name?

 

[WildRose]

Curious to see how the CX compares to the GMX, did they actually come up with a new design or did they tweak the GMX and call it by a new name?

Probably a bit of both. The GMX was great for penetration but severely lacking in expansion. This bullet "looks" a bit different at least but all my stuff is packed away so I can't tell you exactly why.

 

[CMP70306]

Looks like curved grooves rather than the straight edged grooves on the GMX plus a wider and shallower hollow point under the tip.

 

[Swamplord]

No bc improvements that I can see, maybe they updated the GMX for a lower velocity expansion threshold with the wider, shallower cavity , bearing surface appears same, maybe they are using a different alloy to reduce pressure from the previous design with the Gilding Metal that spiked pressures much like the old Barnes X of the 90's ?

Grooves are slicker on the CX and the new tip won't melt ....

Not a Hornady fan but I'd try them ....

they should start showing up soon out here, for some reason we don't have a problem getting Hornady bullets, just the other night, a local joint got in a big stack of 6.5mm 143 gr ELDX and 147 ELDM bullets along with 30 cal 200 gr & 220 gr ELDX and a bunch of other cals, while everywhere on the web is out of stock ...

1st pic is the old GMX
2nd pic the new CX
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[Swamplord]

Arrgh, beat me to it, lol !

 

[WildRose]

If you scroll down that page you see a couple of videos. I'm watching the first one and indeed this isn't just a remake and rebranding of the GMX but it is a completely redesigned bullet that has higher BC's than the GMX and expands better.

I admit to having some Bias towards Hornady having had such great luck over the last 40 years or so particularly with the Interbond which they unfortunately seem less than inclined to produce in any numbers any more although they have not officially having discontinued it.

In talking with their sale's folks today they are doing what most companies do, they are putting the bulk of their lines into the bullets that have the highest demand and of course that's primarily target shooters and weekend hunters than serious folks like us.

All that being said I think when the time comes I'll have to give these a ride to see if they measure up to the hype. I'm fortunate that where we're moving to we have a much wider variety of game and some really big country to hunt and shoot in so it's going to be a lot of fun.

 

[WildRose]

No bc improvements that I can see, maybe they updated the GMX for a lower velocity expansion threshold with the wider, shallower cavity , bearing surface appears same, maybe they are using a different alloy to reduce pressure from the previous design with the Gilding Metal that spiked pressures much like the old Barnes X of the 90's ?

Grooves are slicker on the CX and the new tip won't melt ....

Not a Hornady fan but I'd try them ....

they should start showing up soon out here, for some reason we don't have a problem getting Hornady bullets, just the other night, a local joint got in a big stack of 6.5mm 143 gr ELDX and 147 ELDM bullets along with 30 cal 200 gr & 220 gr ELDX and a bunch of other cals, while everywhere on the web is out of stock ...

1st pic is the old GMX
2nd pic the new CX


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If the photo's are accurate I'd say the grooves of the CX are definitely deepr and wider and shaped differently vs the GMX

 

[WildRose]

The video is very informative and goes into some pretty good depth as to exactly what changes were made in this bullet vs the GMX. It's nearly 40 minutes but worth watching.

 

[Mark37082]

I love to see new companies launching new products, but most of the time I encounter significantly higher per unit prices. Many times you get what you pay for, but sometimes the scale of larger companies like Hornady just makes it easier for them to significantly under price the smaller companies. For example, I was just looking at Cutting Edge Lazers and the unit price was around $1.50 for a .284. It might be an awesome bullet, but there is a point where dead is dead and the target really doesn't care. I want to love Hornady because of their pricing. We'll see…..

 

[WildRose]

I love to see new companies launching new products, but most of the time I encounter significantly higher per unit prices. Many times you get what you pay for, but sometimes the scale of larger companies like Hornady just makes it easier for them to significantly under price the smaller companies. For example, I was just looking at Cutting Edge Lazers and the unit price was around $1.50 for a .284. It might be an awesome bullet, but there is a point where dead is dead and the target really doesn't care. I want to love Hornady because of their pricing. We'll see…..

Personally I love the small "boutique" manufacturers because they are the "cutting edge" that is driving larger companies like Hornady to innovate and give us not just more choices but superior products over what they've produced in the past.

Most people under 50 probably have no idea what it was like for the last half of the last century.

There was no internet, no youtube only a handful of magazines where new products would really be debuted for the public and the handful or writers and editors that decided what products would be pushed severely limited and controlled the market.

Word of mouth is a really amazing thing, somebody has an idea, shares it with someone else and maybe it gets then into the head or desk of someone that can carry that idea forward. Without the internet it might take decades to see a really great new idea actually come to market.

Today, with light speed communications at the fingertips of everyone with a phone the rate at which technology is advancing is orders of magnitude faster and continually accelerating.

The big manufacturing companies are generally way behind the curve and of course tend to be very conservative or they'd be out of business. Never forget it's those small guys willing to take a whole lot of risk that are improving the market for everyone, they lead the way and the big guys follow.

 

[Outlaw6.0]

Their published BCs are a bit off-putting. With that being said, i've been shooting monos for as long as I can remember. It's never a bad thing to have a new kid on the block. Especially when Hornady is the only thing available most times .



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[WildRose]

Their published BCs are a bit off-putting. With that being said, i've been shooting monos for as long as I can remember. It's never a bad thing to have a new kid on the block. Especially when Hornady is the only thing available most times .



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They are definitely an improvement over the GMX's BC's. I have not looked deeply enough yet to compare to other mono's.

Also, unlike the published BC's we see for a lot of bullets that are at best "optimistic" and at worst, 'fraudulent", Hornady actually uses their Doppler radar system to compute accurate BC's at every stage in flight and then averages them.

I know a lot of the guys at Hornady having spent years pestering them with technical questions and they are shooting every day on the range to get accurate numbers, not just sitting back "estimating" or using programs like QL without proving the numbers up in real world testing.

 

[snox801]

Came across this last night.

https://www.hornady.com/bullets/cx#!/#product-line

Hornady seems to have recognized the trend towards mono's and has come into the market with their own new offering.

I've been a really big fan of Hornady for better than 30 years since I first started shooting their varmint bullets when I was hiding and doing predator control and shot their Interbond, in my opinion the best bonded bullet in the US for as long as they were manufactured.

Once I get things set up again I'm going to have to try their CX bullets.

If nothing else I'll have to give the 190gr 30 cal and 250gr .375's a ride just for fun.

I thought they were gonna make the interbond again. I've been sitting n a few hundred 6mm 85gr cause I'm with you they are fantastic Bullets. Just offered them up to a member here for his daughters 6x45.