Found this on utube. It was made 2 months ago. It shows a hammer bullet failing to expand and tumbling. I just finished load workups, do i need to be worried this hunting season? My thoughts are that it is a heavy long bullet and perhaps it was marginally stable to start. I dont know. Ive emailed Steve Davis about it.
Hammer bullet concern
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This is interesting. I saw Barbour Creeks test with a 7mm Hammer and it was perfect. There are also scores of testimonials and photos of post-mortems with extensive large wound channels from many calibers and bullet weights at a wide range of impact velocities. I still have not read a claim of a hammer "failure" which is amazing considering you can find negative threads on essentially every other bullet.
One thing not mentioned in the video was the gun and cartridge used with the twist rate. This test may have been with a marginally stabilized bullet. The tester seems set on classifying Hammers as "match"/hunting bullets. Just my observations. Spidy sense says maybe something ain't quite right here.
One thing not mentioned in the video was the gun and cartridge used with the twist rate. This test may have been with a marginally stabilized bullet. The tester seems set on classifying Hammers as "match"/hunting bullets. Just my observations. Spidy sense says maybe something ain't quite right here.
Agree
The 214 requires an 8.5 twist. If this is shot with a 9 or 10 twist it's a bad test.
cohunt
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I'd like to see more info, cartridge, twist, 2nd test to back up original data --- etc.
Seems like he jas an opinion with npt much data to share.
Nothing is impossible, I'd listen to more data and facts, as we all know--- a bullet is only perfect until fired.
Seems like he jas an opinion with npt much data to share.
Nothing is impossible, I'd listen to more data and facts, as we all know--- a bullet is only perfect until fired.
I sent him a text to ask questions and challenged the accuracy of his report. His reply was rather gruff and he made it clear he knew what he was doing and didn't need any questions/help. He is a self-professed expert!
Steve already knows about this dingaling. He's the one that asked me to watch it. Comment if you wish. I'd be curious how he responds to YOU!
George
Steve already knows about this dingaling. He's the one that asked me to watch it. Comment if you wish. I'd be curious how he responds to YOU!
George
Andrew Massi
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300 win mag, 1:8 twist
They tested twice and both tests mirrored each other
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Andrew Massi
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You won't see claims of failure on this forum, long range only and Rokslide both have some bit they never show up here for whatever reason.
What was the twist in the 300?
Andrew Massi
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1:8
Sounds like a fair test. I have plans for hammers this fall as well. Looks like I may have to buy a couple test goats.
Lrreloader
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I'm tagging in because I am putting full faith in his product for a once in a lifetime hunt with my father in Colorado this year for a limited draw elk/mule deer. I am at the ladder stage test in my rifle but am not a fan boy like Berger guys, and am always able to listen to outside opinions but in my experience so far Steve for being an owner has been always there with answers even to the simplest questions and has helped provide beginning load data along with matching the perfect bullet selection with your specific gun. The do often speak about their bullets as not being within the confines of normal bullets and there for should be treated as such
"I" make my bullet choice decisions without outside influence, and "I" always do my own field test. There is no substitute for your own real-world experience. My longest harvest thus far (MT bull elk at 931Y) is with a Berger 190 VLD out of my .300 WM.
Regardless of bullet choice, the end-user has the ultimate decision and the consequences associated with it.
Lrreloader
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Agreed my father harvested beautiful 9 pt PA mountain buck at 2,680 yards with a 300 gr. Berger in .338 ultra mag.
