Loss of Love for Leupold, New scope time.

Long of the short, my VX6 HD took a dump at the moment of truth and I missed a 370" bull. Looking for something that can track, and handle the minor bumps of a mountain hunting rifle( I don't expect any scope to get tomahawked and hold zero) and maintain zero. Would prefer to keep it under 28 oz... I know its nothing special and the glass in the VX6HD is much better but my 6-24 gen1 one PST has never failed me in 7 years of hard mountain hunting and its had its fair share of accidental spills(like falling down the mountain with it strapped to my pack) and never shifted more than an inch off zero after even the biggest mishap on the mountain. So basically looking for the reliability and weight I've experienced with that scope but looking to upgrade to better glass and turrets while not being heavy. I've looked at the Zeiss v4&v6 The Mark 5, NX8 and a few others. I want at least 18 if not more 20-25 on the top end. What lighter scopes have you guys had good luck with and recommend? I'll give up a little in glass for durability but it would be nice to have my cake and eat it too.
I have a Shepherd Scope it has never lost zero in 15 years of hunting it has fully multi coated optics I have the 3 to 10 x 40 model how ever they now have 4 to 16 x 50 models . They were used by military for years and you have a duel reticle system and first focal plane range finder along with graduation at top and right side that shows how many clicks of wind age or Elevation you have dialed from zero so you can't forget you Dialed off zero . They won't break the bank either . At around $850.00
 
This is like the third issue I've heard about with the vx6 line. I know Ryan Avery on rock slide had a similar issue with his. I love my leupolds and never had a problem but it sure does make you wonder. 370 bull would live in my nightmares forever!!!

I experienced a brand new VX6 on a customer's rifle fail literally on the 2nd shot trying to zero after mounting. Came back from recoil after first shot and my crystal clear image was completely blurry. No matter where I put the parallax it was still horribly blurry. Needless to say the customer was NOT happy. Just one of many bad experiences with the VX line of scopes. I won't even work with them anymore
 
I've replaced almost all my Leups.....

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Long of the short, my VX6 HD took a dump at the moment of truth and I missed a 370" bull. Looking for something that can track, and handle the minor bumps of a mountain hunting rifle( I don't expect any scope to get tomahawked and hold zero) and maintain zero. Would prefer to keep it under 28 oz... I know its nothing special and the glass in the VX6HD is much better but my 6-24 gen1 one PST has never failed me in 7 years of hard mountain hunting and its had its fair share of accidental spills(like falling down the mountain with it strapped to my pack) and never shifted more than an inch off zero after even the biggest mishap on the mountain. So basically looking for the reliability and weight I've experienced with that scope but looking to upgrade to better glass and turrets while not being heavy. I've looked at the Zeiss v4&v6 The Mark 5, NX8 and a few others. I want at least 18 if not more 20-25 on the top end. What lighter scopes have you guys had good luck with and recommend? I'll give up a little in glass for durability but it would be nice to have my cake and eat it too.
Vortex AMG
 
Long of the short, my VX6 HD took a dump at the moment of truth and I missed a 370" bull. Looking for something that can track, and handle the minor bumps of a mountain hunting rifle( I don't expect any scope to get tomahawked and hold zero) and maintain zero. Would prefer to keep it under 28 oz... I know its nothing special and the glass in the VX6HD is much better but my 6-24 gen1 one PST has never failed me in 7 years of hard mountain hunting and its had its fair share of accidental spills(like falling down the mountain with it strapped to my pack) and never shifted more than an inch off zero after even the biggest mishap on the mountain. So basically looking for the reliability and weight I've experienced with that scope but looking to upgrade to better glass and turrets while not being heavy. I've looked at the Zeiss v4&v6 The Mark 5, NX8 and a few others. I want at least 18 if not more 20-25 on the top end. What lighter scopes have you guys had good luck with and recommend? I'll give up a little in glass for durability but it would be nice to have my cake and eat it too.
I have, Zeiss 30mm-4x16x44 SF, Vortex Viper 30mm- 5x20x44 SF, Nikon Monarch's 1"-5x20x44 & Arken's 30mm SH4 4x14x44 FFP
A wide price range for sure, all have performed flawlessly.
If I had to pick just one.......Vortex
M2C
Steve C
 
Avoid Zeiss like Covid 19....the recoil from my 300 RUM caused all the internals in my last Zeiss to break loose and rattle around inside the tube.
Sorry you had problems with yours. Had 1 my 300rum for years,no problems. Just put a razor on it last year.
 
For those of you with an NX8 will the 2.5-20 work with the Hawkins Hybrids on a long action with how short the tube is?
 
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Had a VX6 3-18 fail while on a hunt in Colorado after I fell over while climbing up a hill. Wasn't expecting it to be dead on by any means but it was shooting 3 minutes left when I was able to check my zero. Called Leupold and they said that would "normal". However it never damaged the scope on the outside. Was not a major fall I really tripped and the gun went down with me. See the photo for my reply.
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I have used and sighted in many scopes for myself and other people in the past. My conclusion is for cheaper plinkers (p-dogs)sightron SIII tracks well and is adequate for budget use As well as some of the leupolds. When my life, buck of a lifetime, and reputation are on the line it is NF that I count on. My rifles are used year round in harsh environments and rugged terrain As well as in and out of a truck and off and on an ATV multiple times a day. I have accidentally had things happen to rifles with NF scopes on them(too horrific to mention)and not once 🤞have I had one off it's original zero. I have missed and I have dialed incorrectly but I have not had one that it was the scopes fault. Any other scope I use I get that paranoid feeling that it might have lost its zero. I am not intentionally abusive to my equipment but it is well used and depended one. When I need confidence i use a Nightforce. My 2 cents.
 
For those of you with an NX8 will the 2.5-20 work with the Hawkins Hybrids on a long action with how short the tube is?

I just had a range day with a Nx8 on a long action with Hawkins hybrids. There was only a 1/4 inch of real estate on the tube available to move for eye relief.

if you have a short LOP this WILL cause problems if you use Hawkins hybrids.
 

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