I just bought the new Hornady tool. Works okay
So- you say to save up( I've already mentioned that 21st century stuff is out of wallet margine)If you are going to or starting to cutting your rifle brass necks. I will add a little food for though into neck cutting. How many caliber you are loading for? That were the expenses really comes in. The ideal is cutting the necks the same thickness each time, for neck tension, and centering the case in the chamber. Once that thickness is determine you really don't want change that. They say don't cut your brass necks to less than .013 in thickness. A 21st century neck cutting system is a lot of money to start with, but at least you can get different cutting heads, and expander die body for each caliber. You can purchase a neck cutting setup for each caliber. That way once thickness is set, you never have to change it. I have two different neck cutting set ups. Not really happy with either one, and mainly because of having to adjust the tool for different calibers. I sent Hornady an email asking if they supplied just the cutting head that can be changed out for different calibers. I didn't get anywhere with that. I think they are missing the boat, but maybe that's only me. It goes back to I wish I knew what I know now. I would have saved money in the long run.
That kind of stretched my neck out 2. LOLTurns necks really well....
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If you are serious, and a little OCD, or just finnicky about your work, "RELOADING". Go with K&M or 21Centry. You can not compare the cuts that is made by a RCBS, Hornady, Sinclair neck turning system, to the K&M and the 21Century neck turners. Its like comparing a Hyundai to a Mercedes. PMA make a real good set up, not as pricey as the K&M and 21Centry turners and it produces a Quality turned neck, no fuss. My father in law,,, in mentoring me through the years,, we have used the RCBS, Hornady, and Sinclair neck turning systems and found them to be lacking in,, Well lets just say what they produced wasn't what we were looking for. Today he uses the PMA system and I use the K&M System. A buddy of mine just got the 21Centry system 2 weeks ago and I helped him set it up and got him turning case necks and I'm very pleased with the out come of the finished case necks.. They Look just like the cases I turned on the K&M. What I like the most about the K&M turner is The tight fit on the pilot. It's tight with out any slop. The expanding mandrel and the pilot are a great match. That is the one thing that I was not happy with the 21Centry steel expander & pilot, just a little slop in that area, but it still produced a fine cut. Now,, to make some people mad. LOL.So- you say to save up( I've already mentioned that 21st century stuff is out of wallet margine)
I can get different cutter bits for the K&M. Whom I will say, answered all my ? Immediately this morning ( I asked the ? I had over the weekend)
A fellow p.m.'d me with a Hornady turner
Don't know wether to start there or get the K&M ?
If I bought that machine and all accessories, I would be forced to into a low rent kitchenette. LolBlake Machine IDOD:
https://fclassproducts.com/the-idod-case-turner
They are great but overkill for 95% of neck turners... I have the above but started with a K&M then bought a 21st Century powered lathe with all the bells and whistles. They are all capable of precision under 0.0003" if used properly. If turning for small volume (under 200cases) I would go simple with the K&M or similar units. Just make sure you get one with a large aluminum handle for the cutter; it will serve as a heat sink and make your results more consistent from the first neck to the last. The other option, which is what I would suggest to the OP, is to have DJ's Brass Service turn them for you. He is very good at it and quick.
https://djsbrass.com/
If you can get different cutter set up that once you set a thickness, and not change it unless there needs to be additional adjustment for that caliber neck. I would say what would work. I don't have a K&M setup. So I don't know much about it. I looked at it yesterday. It looked good for what it is. I know it's a pain to adjust a cutter head for a different caliber and go back to what your cutting on another caliber. I know about the costs in getting a 21st Century set up. I just put down $1,800.00 for system. I am lucky to have two boys, and a brother, that are close to me, and they will get to use it too. Hornady only only sell a single cutter set up. You can get different mandrels for it. You have to just the cutter each time you change caliber. Hornady system doesn't allow for additional cutter head assemble set up. Maybe they will wake up and sell the head assemble only without selling the base. 21st Century cutter assembles cost more than the entire Hornady set up. I watch some films on one person that just purchases additional Hornady set up for each caliber. That's gets to be a lot of gear to shelve.So- you say to save up( I've already mentioned that 21st century stuff is out of wallet margine)
I can get different cutter bits for the K&M. Whom I will say, answered all my ? Immediately this morning ( I asked the ? I had over the weekend)
A fellow p.m.'d me with a Hornady turner
Don't know wether to start there or get the K&M ?