Remington Bankruptcy

Best thing that could've ever happened for Marlin. I think Ruger will make JM proud again. I shoot a 2009 Marlin 338 marlin express. I like it alot. Perhaps Ruger will resurrect that chambering. From what I read, Remington tried and failed, but who knows for sure.
 
If anyone really knows much about or has worked on a walker trigger, they know that taking that trigger in factory form much below 3lbs is dangerous because the adjustment screw may back completely off of the pull weight spring. What ever pull weight three is left after that ( usually under 3lbs or less) is not pull weight due to the springs tension but strictly due to friction of the sear surfaces. So that situation leaves no spring tension to reset the trigger Sears in place upon recocking the firing pin. That's when the firing pin can fall when ejecting a live round. The most notable & leading lawsuit against Remington's walker trigger accidentally going off was a factory trigger that had been adjusted too low by a gunsmith. And if you do much research, most of the triggers tied to lawsuits had been tinkered with. CSNBC put their normal twist on stories and painted up Remington as an evil vilan corporation who was putting out factory triggers that they knew were dangerous and laughing about it the whole time as they raked in the profit. Yes, the triggers were dangerous after someone who didn't know what they were doing jacked around with them.
I'm a Remington fan. (gotta say that first)
They knew they had a problem trigger. They could have remedied it and they didn't.
They could have sealed the trigger unit and made it non adjustable.
Heck, they could have subbed the trigger with an unbranded Timmney or the like.
Sure it might have cost a bit more, but look at the customer satisfaction value and likely avoided the lawsuits and collapse of the Company.
I don't know who bought Winchester out of BK, but they are back on the market.
It sucks watching our American Gun Mfgs get railroaded because of the "Liberal think tank"
(wow, that's an oxymoron ) The Guns that won the West are disappearing .
Keep'm while you can.
And when the Govt comes for them, let'm have'm, bullets first.
 
Been a Marlin levergun fan since I was old enough to know what a gun was. I have owned many over the years, and while it is true the quality dropped WAY off when Remington took over, that has changed in the past few years. The CNC equipment they've been using to turn out new leverguns has brought them back to the high quality they used to be known for. Maybe not the hand fit quality the Model 93s and 36s are known for, but still incredible rifles.
Ruger taking over Marlin might be the best thing for this old American company though. I can't wait to see what happens now =) Two of my favorite producers of western style firearms with a modern twist, things are gonna get real interesting!
 
My worry is the Vista brand. They own too much of our industry. Never good to have so many eggs in one basket. Ruger still has family involved so there's some "heart & soul" in the company. I hate to see any industry get too big because they seem to fall to greed and mismanagement. Money is still the root of all evil.
 
Best thing that could've ever happened for Marlin. I think Ruger will make JM proud again. I shoot a 2009 Marlin 338 marlin express. I like it alot. Perhaps Ruger will resurrect that chambering. From what I read, Remington tried and failed, but who knows for sure.
Hope they do
I had a 1955 Marlin in 30-30 great gun and pleasant to shoot Sold it to my cousin who is a lefty lol Big mistake
 
Lots of companies hit bankruptcy and return. I hope Remington is one of them.

That brand is worth a lot of money. So is the 700 action. 7. 870. 1100. 1187. etc.

They will eventually make a comeback and they may have to be purchased by another company outside of the US.

They will probably have to break up the Model 700 and trigger stuff into a separate corporation that can get sued into oblivion.

Hopefully the 700 action is separated from all of that.
 
Remington built a good rifle in 721& 700 action. I own several of them. I have been around several of the 700's that came straight out of the box, and a little reloading they were shoot about 1/2" groups @ 100yds, and held great beyond 300yds. I guess the real problem was the trigger and adjustment and people were able to mess with them. The other end was Ruger put a 8 lbs trigger in their action. Make you I guess, go to a gunsmith and get a custom trigger put in, which is the right way, but it make you send more money. Some people don't have it either. The press as a whole, is a ******** group, and people are stupid. I know reading about people here that are blowing primers out of the cases, and not thinking anything about it.
 
There was no problem with the Walker trigger.Only the idiots that decided to monkey with the sear engagement and over travel screws.As long as you sealed the trigger pull screw with lock tite after giving a bump test and push test you were good to go.Some could be set as low as 2 lbs,but most about 2 1/2 lbs was easily attainable.
 
Lots of companies hit bankruptcy and return. I hope Remington is one of them.

That brand is worth a lot of money. So is the 700 action. 7. 870. 1100. 1187. etc.

They will eventually make a comeback and they may have to be purchased by another company outside of the US.

They will probably have to break up the Model 700 and trigger stuff into a separate corporation that can get sued into oblivion.

Hopefully the 700 action is separated from all of that.
I truly hope you're right but I'm afraid that they're in too deep. Their rifles, like their shotguns, are legendary. 1100's took my heart long ago as their V3 did recently. I actually like the V3 better. At least we still have their ammo, sort of, kind of.....
 
There was no problem with the Walker trigger.Only the idiots that decided to monkey with the sear engagement and over travel screws.As long as you sealed the trigger pull screw with lock tite after giving a bump test and push test you were good to go.Some could be set as low as 2 lbs,but most about 2 1/2 lbs was easily attainable.
Yeah, I wasn't implying there was a problem with the walker trigger. It was only a problem after someone who didn't know what they were doing messed with it. The main thing to know was if you were backed completely off of the pull weight spring or not and if the pull weight remaining was due to spring tension or surface friction of the Sears. Over travel and sear engagement tinkering can lead to trouble even in a timney ,rifle basix and many other triggers besides 700 replacement triggers as well.
 
Remington went bankrupt because the current owners loaded it with so much debt it just couldn't survive. To be fair to Remington and the Marlin issue, when Remington bought Marlin, Marlin was already producing crap guns. The machinery was so old and worn out that when Remington moved production they left almost all of it behind. Problem with the move is they also lost all the long term staff that knew how to make Marlins. If took a few years but the Marlins that were being produced the last ten years were actually very good quality. I have a 2015 Guide gun in 45-70 that will shoot clover leafs at 100 yards. It is finished and fit nearly as well as the JM gun I have from the late 80s.

Remington is one more company that has suffered greatly from Financial Engineering. This is a pretty good article about the recent history of Remington.
Remington History
Excellent read. Mostly way above my head. I work in a factory, so if I was there, i would've been one of the people getting pole-jacked, but i digress.....Sad ending for sure.
 
Just wanted to get the thoughts of the group on Remington's bankruptcy, buyout and split up...understand Remington has been bashed for years with the trigger fiasco and poor customer service. However, there are some really good Remington products still out there for the average joe.

what are all the rem 700 action guys gonna do? are we buying other actions and brands? are we getting zero customer service now?

what are your recommendations for switching to other brands and why?

Thanks.
Great question! However some company will beyond doubt buy the action division and soon is my thought! No way they will disappear....still a cornerstone to the custom industry....hell I think I'm going to look into it!
 
I have a Hart 28" benchrest barrel that I want to put back on a Rem 700 long action. Anyone know where I can get one at a decent price?
 
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