Every Gun Owner should read this

[Scott E Ames]

This brings to mind the old quote.

"You can vote yourself into socialism, but you'll have to shoot your way out of it."

Very difficult to do the second half if your country has already been disarmed.

 

[JimFromTN]

Three million more guns: The Spring 2020 spike in firearm sales

Phillip Levine and Robin McKnight document increased gun sales in the first half of 2020 and offer potential explanations.

www.brookings.edu

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The majority of people are less scared of conservative people waving flags and carrying an A/R than they are of rioters during cars and buildings.
No one ran out to buy firearms when the militias marched down their street.
Millions ran out and bought firearms because they saw the rioters on TV 1000 miles away burning cities.
The NICS system shows 10 million firearms sold this year since the riots started. People mistakenly point to Covid as the stimulus, but there were far more NICS checks after the riots started than when the lockdowns started; almost two to one. Last month was another record number of NICS checks even though Covid lockdowns had stopped in many areas, only the riots continue to propel the sales. More gun buyers than ever before even though there are far fewer guns and almost no ammo to buy.
Definitely not driven by Covid.

 

[A/C Guy]

If you think BLM is good for the country, here is a link

1. 6 Reasons Black Christians Must Denounce BLM
   
   https://townhall.com/columnists/carljackson/2020/
   ...
   Jul 26, 2020 · According to their own website, BLM wants to disrupt the "Western-prescribed nuclear family structure," promote LGBTQ rights and advance Marxism. Sadly, few black evangelicals have the courage ...

Does anyone think that our country needs Marxism?
Does anyone believe a house without a father is preferred to a home with a father? BLM does.
Does anyone believe a trans should share a bathroom with their 10 or 12 year old daughter?
Are you aware that CA just passed a law decriminalizing rape and sex between a 24 year old and a 14 year old?

 

[A/C Guy]

Jim, type

www.antifa.com

and see where it goes. Straight to Biden's site.
If Biden/Harris don't want the rerouting, they could easily stop it.
But they don't. They know people like you are easily fooled by their lies and denials.
Stop posting the disinformation links. Engage your brain and stop being misled.

 

[A/C Guy]

FBI NICS checks

Click the link.
Compare each month of 2020 to 2019 and see that the spike occurred right after the riots started.
Yes January was up 20%
After the riots the increase was in the millions.

 

[A/C Guy]

Here is a universally accepted, non biased source for BLM

The story behind Thousand Currents, the charity that doles out the millions of dollars Black Lives Matter generates in donations

The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation is a non-profit organisation – but it is not tax exempt. But organisations can borrow another non-profit’s tax-exempt, 501(c)(3) status while raising money or building out its structure, better known as a fiscal sponsorship. So Black Lives Matter...

www.businessinsider.com.au

If you take the time to actually read the whole article and visit the links provided, you will see that the money trail is intentionally indirect. The groups involved ALL promote gay women' rights and the destruction/ breakdown of the nuclear family as well as the emasculation of men.

 

[JimFromTN]

FBI NICS checks

Click the link.
Compare each month of 2020 to 2019 and see that the spike occurred right after the riots started.
Yes January was up 20%
After the riots the increase was in the millions.

In March, it jumped to 3.7 million (Covid), April and May started dropping a little, June jumped to 3.9 million (Riots), July and August started dropping. July and August are both below the numbers it was in March.

 

[JimFromTN]

Jim, type

www.antifa.com

and see where it goes. Straight to Biden's site.
If Biden/Harris don't want the rerouting, they could easily stop it.
But they don't. They know people like you are easily fooled by their lies and denials.
Stop posting the disinformation links. Engage your brain and stop being misled.

Fact check: Antifa.com redirects to Joe Biden's website, but Biden campaign not involved

Antifa.com is not connected to presidential candidate Joe Biden, though it started redirecting users to the campaign's website in August.

www.usatoday.com

 

[JimFromTN]

Here is a universally accepted, non biased source for BLM

The story behind Thousand Currents, the charity that doles out the millions of dollars Black Lives Matter generates in donations

The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation is a non-profit organisation – but it is not tax exempt. But organisations can borrow another non-profit’s tax-exempt, 501(c)(3) status while raising money or building out its structure, better known as a fiscal sponsorship. So Black Lives Matter...

www.businessinsider.com.au

If you take the time to actually read the whole article and visit the links provided, you will see that the money trail is intentionally indirect. The groups involved ALL promote gay women' rights and the destruction/ breakdown of the nuclear family as well as the emasculation of men.

I thought the point of this was to show a connection between Soros, the democrats, and BLM. I am not seeing it. Also, I have close friends who are gay. The fact that BLM promotes equal rights for the lgbt community doesn't bother me. As for destroying the nuclear family, this is what they say

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure "requirement" by supporting each other as extended families and "villages" that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

I never said anything about BLM. I spoke of ANTIFA and the Alt right and how they are both evil and we should not support either side. I pointed out that it is scary to people to see the same lunatics who were running around in the woods preparing for a civil war are now walking the streets armed. I am not really sure of the point that this direction has taken and how it relates to what I was saying and see no reason to continue with this discussion.

 

[Dosh]

I'm more concerned when I see looting, burning and rioting. When I see Americans with guns protecting their property, I am relieved to see it. The BLM and the spineless Antifa have been allowed to ignore the law in America way too long. Previous posters have stated if President Trump is re elected Antifa and BLM will riot. They already are!!!! If Biden wins we loose law and order altogether, we will be taxed to death and communism will prevail. Forget being able to even shoot a gun, hunting will be banned due to guns. The left will legislate us into a third world country. I'm just glad I'm old, but am sad to have my children and grandchildren see this country in this state.

 

[hseII]

Fact-check: Do donations to Black Lives Matter go to a ‘Democrat Super PAC’?

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on June 12, 2020 Since protests over the death of George Floyd...

www.statesman.com

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www.adl.org

Fact check: Antifa.com redirects to Joe Biden's website, but Biden campaign not involved

Antifa.com is not connected to presidential candidate Joe Biden, though it started redirecting users to the campaign's website in August.

www.usatoday.com

they are: bet your hat or cat or whatever else.

When the same people are funding the same groups & money flows from one to the other, they are connected.

How is it liberal sympathizing propaganda keeps being spread as gospel on real gun forums?

 

[A/C Guy]

In March, it jumped to 3.7 million (Covid), April and May started dropping a little, June jumped to 3.9 million (Riots), July and August started dropping. July and August are both below the numbers it was in March.

Yet there are how many millions more than 2019?
Don't try to down play the numbers.
Part of the slight reduction in total numbers could be the lack of inventory and the 2 hour wait lines at major resellers.

Did you see the Newt Gingrich interview?
Mentions the financial role that George Soros has played regarding BLM, campaign contributions to leftist, anti-police district attorneys, and more...

Follow the money

 

[JimFromTN]

Yet there are how many millions more than 2019?
Don't try to down play the numbers.
Part of the slight reduction in total numbers could be the lack of inventory and the 2 hour wait lines at major resellers.

Did you see the Newt Gingrich interview?
Mentions the financial role that George Soros has played regarding BLM, campaign contributions to leftist, anti-police district attorneys, and more...

Follow the money

Not playing down the numbers. You stated the following

"The NICS system shows 10 million firearms sold this year since the riots started. People mistakenly point to Covid as the stimulus, but there were far more NICS checks after the riots started than when the lockdowns started; almost two to one. Last month was another record number of NICS checks even though Covid lockdowns had stopped in many areas, only the riots continue to propel the sales. More gun buyers than ever before even though there are far fewer guns and almost no ammo to buy.
Definitely not driven by Covid."

The numbers don't back that statement. There was a huge bump in sales in March (Lock down for Covid) which amounted to 3.7 million guns sold and there was a huge bump in June (Riots) which amounted to 3.9 million guns sold. Thats not twice as many. Thats like 6% or 7%. Sorry, don't feel like doing the math in my head. You state that last month was another record in sales but it wasn't as high as March. You say the gun sales are not driven by Covid which is not backed by the numbers. The numbers seem to show that they are backed by both but you are correct in that the riots caused a slight uptick from the covid levels. You are also correct that people are frightened by the riots. My ex-father in law is terrified that ANTIFA is going to throw bricks at his house. He is terrified if he goes to downtown Nashville, he will get caught up in all of the rioting that is going on. There is no rioting going on in downtown Nashville but you will never convince him of it. All he watches is Fox News so I blame them. There was a couple of days back in June right after ther George Floyd incident where people got crazy. Some people tried to burn down the courthouse. It was very minor damage. Turns out they were meth heads with nothing better to do. My point was that people are more afraid of armed militia walking through crowded streets of protestors especially when they belong to alt right groups that are praying and preparing for a civil war and have confederate flags hanging off the back of their vehicles. It sure scares me and I am a gun loving, deer hunting, southern boy. I can just imagine what its doing to the city folks.

Gingrich never mentioned BLM or ANTIFA. He mentioned helping liberals get elected that let criminals go so they could riot and then he got shut down. I don't know what actual role Soros has played in all of this if anything at all but it seems like he is getting blamed because people don't like him and not because there is any evidence to back up anything people are saying. He seems like a liberal equivalent of the Koch brothers. Unless Gingrich presents some sort of evidence, its just hearsay. He also makes it sound like all of these rioters and all of the millions of dollars in damage are a direct result of police hating liberals funded by Soros letting them out of jail. Sounds like a load of bull. I could be wrong. If someone can show that the majority of rioters arrested had criminal backgrounds and were released by liberal DA's who have been proven to take money from Soros, I will admit that I was wrong and Gingrich was right.

I apologize to the OP. I know this isn't the intended direction of the thread.

 

[L.Sherm]

. I spoke of ANTIFA and the Alt right and how they are both evil and we should not support either side. I pointed out that it is scary to people to see the same lunatics who were running around in the woods preparing for a civil war are now walking the streets armed.

I wonder what this country would be like if this type of thinking was the norm 240+ years ago with are fore farthers.