I like the Montana Extreme cleaning products, but there are members on here that forgot more than I know. My limited experience is, gun doesn't just stop shooting good, and there is a right way to clean a bore from copper fouling.
Browning x-bolt 6.5 creedmoor, help
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Is it the same lot number of ammo? Might be the same brand, but if all the lot numbers are not the same, it may not shoot with the batch of components they used.
Copper fouling. Make sure to clean with a copper removing product and white patch until no blue residue.
I agree with scope. Had the same thing happen on my sons rifle with a Leupold. Tried a different scope and all was good. Sent it in, turned out to be the erector.
Good luck,
Steve
Copper fouling. Make sure to clean with a copper removing product and white patch until no blue residue.
I agree with scope. Had the same thing happen on my sons rifle with a Leupold. Tried a different scope and all was good. Sent it in, turned out to be the erector.
Good luck,
Steve
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How many groups did this rifle shoot that were like the target posted when it was shooting good? Those other groups are probably what 2.5" at 200 yards? It could be alot of things. Mirage, ammo, scope parallax or you as the shooter. That first group was really special but I'd highly doubt a hunting rifle would produce those groups on a regular basis. We all have those groups where the stars align and everything came together...or at least the bullets did. I'd still want better accuracy then what your getting as well.
Agreed. Try some of this. I agree with the scope comments too. I hope it works out. I've always been impressed with factory Brownings, particularly A-bolts and I really hope their QC is not going south. This is the second thread recently on X-bolts with issues and it's concerning.
This is the product I've been using.
I shot those groups for 3 months consistently, even out to 600 hundred yards I was hitting pop cans consistently
25WSM
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Nothing shows up on my side showing me what your using. Maybe try again. Really sounds like copper fouling to me.
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Here's my go to.
6.5 Creedmoor Western Hunter with a VX6 3-18x50 in Talley Lightweights.
Several custom guns and this is what I instinctively grab. I've
never had an issue grouping sub moa. ELDM factory ammo groups around .4" on average edge to edge. ELDX runs about the same. The only time I've ever seen degradation in groups was when it needed to be retourqued in the stock. Any variation in bottom metal torque makes accuracy get sideways. Well, if 3/4 of an inch is bad, which to me it is.
I hope you get it sorted. They're really great guns
Ps, I only shoot box ammo.
6.5 Creedmoor Western Hunter with a VX6 3-18x50 in Talley Lightweights.
Several custom guns and this is what I instinctively grab. I've
never had an issue grouping sub moa. ELDM factory ammo groups around .4" on average edge to edge. ELDX runs about the same. The only time I've ever seen degradation in groups was when it needed to be retourqued in the stock. Any variation in bottom metal torque makes accuracy get sideways. Well, if 3/4 of an inch is bad, which to me it is.
I hope you get it sorted. They're really great guns
Ps, I only shoot box ammo.
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I don't see anything on the label that specifies it is for gun cleaning ( maybe I'm just not seeing it). What I do see is that it says is it penetrating oil. Switch to a product made specifically for cleaning the fouling AND copper from rifle barrels.
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It's possible your barrel needs cleaned of copper. Dont overdue it. Make sure your using a bore guide and a good quality rod. Cleaning can damage your bore if not done correctly. I'd use some Barnes cr10 or sweets 762. Honestly even some old hoppes #9 and some patience will work very well. Let the cleaner do the work.
That can you showed is just some hardware store snake oil. You need to get the correct product for the job at hand. No recommendations cause there are too many good one out there. Bore guide and a good cleaning rod are a must. If you must, watch some youtube vids to see what to do.
25WSM
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If you put water on a few patches and run them through your bore it will shine like a mirror in the light. But you have to get a copper cleaner and let it soak and push patches through and keep doing it till you get no blue or green come out. I bet your barrel is going to take hours to get clean. Wipeout spray foam works real good for an over night soak. Make sure your rifle is slightly muzzle down so nothing runs back into your trigger. Without a copper remover you will never get it clean.
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