archeratlrg
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Is the action screws are out of alignment which I've seen a lot of lately I normally plug and re-drill. To make sure they're correct.
Do you always lap your scope rings?
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Fair enough..... Often when an OP asks a question - he may not understand the breadth and depth of the problem he is out to solve. And - others - that also may not understand the big picture as well. You are right - it is helpful to read the entire thread. AND to understand all of the issues. There are a lot of "quick fix" answers that show the poster may not be concerned with true alignment. They likely figure that "that" is what their windage adjustment is for. Not judging...just observing.
Randy Tidwell
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I always lap ALL steel rings. I will admit it is like most things we do, its voodoo. Can't swear it helps, but it eliminates one more variable. And it can't hurt.
Of course this is if it is done right. I have lapping bars for 1", 30mm, and 34mm. I start out with a 200 grit, then 600 grit and finish up with 1200. When done, you can lay a scope or the lapping bar in the rings, shine a light and not see any gaps.
As far as any of the mount manufacturers claiming their rings are perfect, Bull. When they start making them to Aero Space tolerance, we could not afford them.
I have never lapped a ring that did not have high and low spots.
JMHO
Of course this is if it is done right. I have lapping bars for 1", 30mm, and 34mm. I start out with a 200 grit, then 600 grit and finish up with 1200. When done, you can lay a scope or the lapping bar in the rings, shine a light and not see any gaps.
As far as any of the mount manufacturers claiming their rings are perfect, Bull. When they start making them to Aero Space tolerance, we could not afford them.
I have never lapped a ring that did not have high and low spots.
JMHO
ntsqd
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Randy,
Interesting that you mention steel rings specifically. Have you found it not worth the effort with aluminum rings, or no opinion/info because you don't use them?
Not judging or anything else beyond just being curious.
thom
Interesting that you mention steel rings specifically. Have you found it not worth the effort with aluminum rings, or no opinion/info because you don't use them?
Not judging or anything else beyond just being curious.
thom
Whomever made the Action, made the base(s), and installed the base(s) on the action. They all had a role in parts not aligning like they should have.
Agreed and I was hoping you'd say that. That's the beauty of the innovative approach of Burris with their signature line with insert, it helps compensate with those compounding errors.
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Clem Bronkoski
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Well after reading this thread and adding my own bit to it I started doing some more research last night. After reading about not lapping, lapping and bedding rings I've come to the conclusion that not lapping is OK for the average Joe. Lapping I have serious questions about. Removing more material from the rings to make them concentric?! I decided on trying bedding my rings. And to my amazement it was really easy. A bit of sanding to rough up the surface of the lower half of the rings, a few coats of release agent on the scope, a bit of Devcon 10010 spread evenly throughout the lower ring half and inserting the scope firmly and taping it in place. I removed the scope about noon and I say I did a very nice job. A utility knife to remove the excess and re-install the scope.
I bet you still dont get 100% contact or take 100% of any misalignment out.And for less time - you could use the Burris Signature Zee rings.
Sherm...if you have to offer to "bet" on it...then that tells me you have not tried them.
So - why not give 'em a try? I think you are going to be pleasantly surprised at the amount of contact - and how adjustable they are. And - less hassle than mixing and using epoxy.I don't know about a lot better. Different way of accomplishing the same thing. Take away material to make it perfectly aligned and concentric or add material to make it perfectly aligned and concentric.
Oh I've been around them, I'll still bed everytime.Sherm...if you have to offer to "bet" on it...then that tells me you have not tried them.
What does that mean..."been around them"...?
Quarter Round
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I use the Burris rings on most of my rifles and a set of Seekins rings on a single rifle, the fit was excellent and I did not lap them. I worked in an industry that saw many alignment jobs from the foundation to the shaft bearings on pumps, compressors, to turbines. There are many ways to skin a cat with good results most of the time.
