My Rem 700 FIRED on Bolt Closing!!

[Wild_Bill]

One thing that realy hasn't been covered is if you lighten the trigger weight to much. We have had many rifles the owner has completely backed off the trigger spring pressure so if the rifle is verticle gravity holds the trigger down and they discharge. Hold them horizontally and the triggers seem to function. There is excessive sear engagement and it isn't an issue.

So dont lighten trigger weights to far either the trigger return spring might not be able to hold the trigger back against the sear.

 

[Alibiiv]

Yes I will contact TT but I have a trip coming up in 3 weeks so I am going to be careful and cross my fingers for now

I played with it for 1/2 hours now. It will only fire 1in 10 times if I slam the bolt closed as hard as I physically can.

I have it set at @ 2.75LBS

I should be ok for my trip.

If you have to take it with you on a hunt in 3 weeks, I would suggest adjusting the trigger pull "up" to 3-3 1/2 pounds if you can. For me personally I have a Ruger Hawkeye with a Timney trigger that when I held the trigger back and lowered the bolt to drop the firing pin on an empty chamber to release the firing pin spring tension, the firing pin would not drop "unless" I lifted up on the bolt after it was all the way down, then it would drop. I didn't trust the rifle or the trigger, feared that there was something seriously wrong and feared a catastrophic incident while hunting, sent it back to Timney. If at all possible is there another rifle that you could use instead of this one? My thoughts are what happens if you take the rifle and for whatever reason it does not stay cocked, or fires on its own and you are on a hunt?? It really sucks when something like this happens only three weeks out before a hunt!!

 

[Remmy700]

He is getting new trigger replacement from TT! No hunting with faulty trigger.

 

[cahunter805]

He is getting new trigger replacement from TT! No hunting with faulty trigger.

Faulty trigger is TBD. Interested to see what TT says.

 

[Lone Hunter]

You will never see me even considering a Rem 700, and when I do have friends that hunt with a Rem 700, blueprinted or not, they stay in front of or far away from me. It is an unsafe, unstable action and in my opinion should be recalled over the safety problems associated with the action.

My Model 70 has never misfired, nor have I heard of it happening. I am sure somewhere it has happened, but the model 700 is notorious for misfires. Get rid of it.

Not trying to be a smart *** but that is not a true statement. It is a very stable action and safe. It is the trigger when adjusted below spec that gives the problem. I have hunted with 700's for years and will continue to do so.

 

[Remmy700]

Sick burn! Get him back Rogue!! Lol. This thread just keeps on rolling along!! @300whisper u getting on this or what?

 

[Ingwe]

You will never see me even considering a Rem 700, and when I do have friends that hunt with a Rem 700, blueprinted or not, they stay in front of or far away from me. It is an unsafe, unstable action and in my opinion should be recalled over the safety problems associated with the action.

My Model 70 has never misfired, nor have I heard of it happening. I am sure somewhere it has happened, but the model 700 is notorious for misfires. Get rid of it.

I wonder how many of the MILLIONS of M700 Owners plus Military and Police Snipers would agree with that gem of a statement?

PS: GREAT 1st post BTW

 

[Remmy700]

@Ingwe u want to see this thread really take off? Your faulty weapon wouldn't happen to be a 6.........5........Creedmoor would it???

 

[Deleted member 48126]

@Remmy700 im tapping out. I have my smarta$$ remarks earlier in the thread. The first couple of pages were full of good info for the op. Glad he got it worked out.

 

[Lycanit]

Just wanted to point out that Remington was sued for just this very thing and lost.. discharge on bolt closing is a known phenomenon with the 700. Stock trigger of course. Several aftermarket triggers also have done this. Good luck with this serious issue. I see 10 pages on this and will skim over them.

 

[Lycanit]

I wonder how many of the MILLIONS of M700 Owners plus Military and Police Snipers would agree with that gem of a statement?

PS: GREAT 1st post BTW

Actually quite a few have had issues with the 700. A simple search will show hundreds of people.

 

[Deleted member 48126]

Just for the record a gun doesn't accidentally kill someone. Bullets don't get put in it on its own, they don't point themselves, and they don't discharge themselves....

The only thing Remington did was hire crappy lawyers and picked ****** jurors.

I find it hard to believe that a $200 trigger used exclusively for PRS is a crap trigger. I would like to hear back from trigger tech before we start calling lawyers for us pointing guns at things they shouldn't be pointed at.

 

[J E Custom]

Well, don't know how else to tell you, read the directions that come with a Timney, every gunsmith I know adjusts the sear to the correct position and it's set then adjusted weight.

I have done hundreds also and I do desired pull weight first, sear engagement and then over travel. Not saying u are wrong and I am right but the way u insult my intelegegence makes me not want to pay attention to a ******* word u say. There are more than one way to skin a cat in about every given situation.

I will have to agree with bigngreen on the proper way to set a trigger.

Start with the common sense approach and realize that the sear adjustment is a dimension. (How much mechanical engagement it has). the trigger pull has nothing to do with the sear engagement, only the amount of trigger force it takes to overcome the sear.

I honed and polished triggers to make them safer and brake better before you could buy all of the aftermarket triggers and had to make the factory ones better. The angles are critical for continuous feel and clean braking as the to surfaces slide against each other. The more trigger pull, the more resistance the sear has to moving but the dimensions have not changed.

Most triggers have three adjustments. The sear should only be adjusted by someone that understands how a trigger works and how unsafe it can be if the sear is adjusted wrong. Two much sear engagement causes the trigger to have creep, two little and the trigger becomes unsafe. My recommendation for most, is to never change the sear adjustment just set trigger pull and over travel to suet your needs. some like more over travel than others and some like different trigger pull weights.

To a point trigger pull weights and over travel can be safely adjusted
as long as there is enough sear engagement. just because there is an adjustment screw for the sear doesn't mean you should use it. it is there for the manufacture to use to set it properly and most fully adjustable triggers will come with a warning not to adjust the sear.

One other thing, I am not the site sensor but would warn against profanity. Keep it civil and you will get a lot more respect.

J E CUSTOM

 

[Lycanit]

J E you're absolutely correct. I would also say properly handling of a firearm would never have a fatality or even a injury.. all I ever see in the ER is a unloaded GSW. Lol... Just cleaning a unloaded gun seems to be particularly dangerous . Tragically some people trust a mechanical device way too much.. don't point the muzzle at anything you don't want to shoot... Obvious I know.. I also see power tool injured people... Comfortability is dangerous!!! Using powerful things often.....we get comfortable.. careless ... Be cautious guys...and gals ....it's sooo easy... And so permanent.
Anyway. Glad you got it resolved.

PS I'm never a smart *** text is so difficult to understand tone at times.