Trouble with shooting 1 MOA even at 200m's

[silverhair]

Also, make sure your stock screws are tight. 25 -50 in lbs. I find the best place to start is 35 in lbs. Assuming you have solid bedding, not wood alone. Some people make the rear screw tighter than the front screw I would say it's best just to make it even and snug you don't want to stress the action one way or the other.

Howa recommends a torque of 50 - 55 inch pounds on the action screws. It has been noted in this and other forums that some long range shooters change the torque on the rear screw to fine tune performance, but that has not been my [admittedly limited] experience. When I changed stocks, LokTite Blue was used on both screws torqued to 50 inch pounds. (CAUTION!! LokTite tends to expand a bit which increases tightness.)

 

[aushunter1]

Howa recommends a torque of 50 - 55 inch pounds on the action screws. It has been noted in this and other forums that some long range shooters change the torque on the rear screw to fine tune performance, but that has not been my [admittedly limited] experience. When I changed stocks, LokTite Blue was used on both screws torqued to 50 inch pounds. (CAUTION!! LokTite tends to expand a bit which increases tightness.)

Yes another good point, just like checking scope mounts/rings etc!

 

[Remmy700]

I stated both of those points in my initial post. Fellows these new members need to learn to do research on the forum prior to coming with some of these questions! Am I alone on this? There is a wealth of knowledge on here that has been covered to many times on the same topics.

 

[aushunter1]

I stated both of those points in my initial post. Fellows these new members need to learn to do research on the forum prior to coming with some of these questions! Am I alone on this? There is a wealth of knowledge on here that has been covered to many times on the same topics.

Very true, I don't like posting a question unless I have exhausted every avenue & done hours of problem solving myself, basically I am stumped at that point.

There is so much useful info on here & out there on the web that you can generally solve a problem or come to an educated conclusion on your own.

Some people just don't follow the same path or want to make the effort unfortunately.

Still that's what forums are for...………..to ask question!

 

[jd5521]

check that your scope is properly leveled and the rings are tightened according to their specification. Then read this link below and get back to us...

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2016/11/how-to-check-your-scopes-true-click-values/

 

[Skidoo]

I thought that was what forums are for asking questions? I mean I get it things like this come up all the time for some of you on here and if so just move along no harm in not commenting on every thread that comes up. I like some others use forums to get suggestions on things instead of wasting countless hours of my time searching forums and the internet all the time. Just my .02 that don't mean squat.

 

[Remmy700]

I apologize if that post sounded harsh about asking questions. By all means that is what the forum is for. However, when you have a rifle problem there should be some things you eliminate for yourself before bringing it public. Things such as checking torque on base, rings, action screws, looking for high spots in barrel channel, good visual inspection of the rifle. These are all very simple things and there are thousands and thousands of resources to utilize for that information. Now once those common things have been covered once you make your post you ensure to include these important details so the brainstorming can begin with all the experience on this forum. When you post a question with no information such as this original post no one has no idea what has been eliminated. I mean by looking at bullet weight I would assume it is a 308 but that's not even in there. What rings? What base? How many rounds on rifle? Last time it was full cleaned? When shooting at 200-300 was it from a rest, bipod, rear bag? I mean maybe it was free handed and if so 1-2 MOA is bad ***! lol. That's all I am saying, again I apologize for not clarifying that in previous post!

 

[Skidoo]

It's all good sir. Doesn't look like the OP wants to come back and help us help him LOL

 

[Kansaswoodguy]

Changing ammo can make a big difference I suggest buying several different boxes and see what your gun likes. As far as number of rounds I check the barrel heat with my hand regularly while shooting if the barrel gets close to uncomfortable to the touch I let it cool now this is assuming your not in New Mexico in the hot sun for an hour before ever pulling the trigger those guys out there wouldn't ever shoot using my method I'm sure their barrels are screaming hot before the first round is fired.

 

[spud06]

I wouldn't expect better than 1.5 MOA at 200M with factory ammo, at least not on my first brand that I try.

 

[FEENIX]

I wouldn't expect better than 1.5 MOA at 200M with factory ammo, at least not on my first brand that I try.

Yep I agree, but sometimes you get lucky and find the factory ammo that your rifle likes. Below is a 3-shot 200 yard group using Winchester 125 deer season XP out of my TC Compass in 6.5 CM ...

It also varies from lot# to lot#. Below is a 5-shot group at 200 yards with the same factory ammo but diffrent lot# ...

I grabbed the cheapest I can find to break-in the barrel and got lucky. I purchased a few more boxes of the good lot number but will be loading the Berger 140s this season, time permitting.

 

[FEENIX]

I apologize if that post sounded harsh about asking questions. By all means that is what the forum is for. However, when you have a rifle problem there should be some things you eliminate for yourself before bringing it public. Things such as checking torque on base, rings, action screws, looking for high spots in barrel channel, good visual inspection of the rifle. These are all very simple things and there are thousands and thousands of resources to utilize for that information. Now once those common things have been covered once you make your post you ensure to include these important details so the brainstorming can begin with all the experience on this forum. When you post a question with no information such as this original post no one has no idea what has been eliminated. I mean by looking at bullet weight I would assume it is a 308 but that's not even in there. What rings? What base? How many rounds on rifle? Last time it was full cleaned? When shooting at 200-300 was it from a rest, bipod, rear bag? I mean maybe it was free handed and if so 1-2 MOA is bad ---! lol. That's all I am saying, again I apologize for not clarifying that in previous post!

Dan, I agree! Unless the OP tells us what he has done to try to resolve his issue, our suggestions for the resolve might be all over the place. The more pertinent information provided, the better possible solution(s) directed to the issue, but with nearly 2 months without a response is not going to help, unless it is no longer an issue. Even if it is no longer an issue, it would be nice to let us know as a courtesy, but that is just me.

Ed