ryanjohnson
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Go to eurooptic and buy a Leica it will be the last rangefinder you ever buy
New rangefinder...??? y'alls opinion...
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skippertwo
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Here's another option,
Why not use a binocular with range finder, then you only need one piece of equiptment to carry.
Why not use a binocular with range finder, then you only need one piece of equiptment to carry.
Love my sig Kilo 2400.
seawolfxix
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I'm probably going the binocular route sometime this year
lightshooter
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I have a sig kilo, not sure which model #. I haven't used it extensively but I've been happy so far, although I've never owned a high end range finder for comparison. The price of the sig was right. I do wish it had a tripod mount. There's after market tripod mounting options.
Can't go wrong with the Leica.
Can't go wrong with the Leica.
whirlwindjml
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I think i have the sig kilo 2200. I been able to stretch the ultra mags and a lapua to 1850 it lasered the white steel target in the afternoon.
It dont have weather and drops but it was around 425 on sale.....when ya have 5 kids thats a steal
It dont have weather and drops but it was around 425 on sale.....when ya have 5 kids thats a steal
Monkeywerench1973
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I use the Leica 2200 sig 2200 and Nikon 4K. Nikon out ranges everything even in light fog
Leica 2200 hdb is my fave because it gives me drop value to 1000
For the money if you use a door chart the Nikon 4K Black 359 on sale is great the Nikon 3000 didn't even come close my 2 cents
Leica 2200 hdb is my fave because it gives me drop value to 1000
For the money if you use a door chart the Nikon 4K Black 359 on sale is great the Nikon 3000 didn't even come close my 2 cents
I have a few units from Leica and Sig. It really depends what you want out of your RF. Do you want internal ballistics returns? What about expansion options outside the RF for very long range shooting? Is it for observation as well as rangefinding, or just as a rangefinder?
All that said, Leica RF's have the nicest glass and sure ranging. They are refined after their decades of experience building RF technology.
Sig tends to be bleeding edge in terms what their RF's can do. So ballistic solutions, connectivity etc. These things make quite a difference in how you use the RF...your workflow, and Sig has these figured out really well.
In terms of ranging, it depends on which RF's you are considering. Ranging in canyons at days end, my Leica 2800 could range a hair farther than my Leica 2700. My Sig 2400 BDX hit the exact same distance as my 2700, albeit it was harder to do as the Leica's sensor alignment is better. However, on a 12" cardboard target, under perfect conditions, my Leica's beat my 2400...again, it could be due to Leica's better aligned sensor such that it's easier to aim, but I think the Leica's just are better at reading those kinds of targets.
However, in rain, my Sig beat my Leicas once it got heavy.
And then there is the 3000 BDX, which so far is pounding all of them.
In your price range, between the Sigs and Leicas, I think you are limited to the Leica 2400, which lacks ballistic functions, and perhaps the 2200 BDX, which lacks some features of the 2400 BDX, but does have internal ballistics to 800 yards.
I'll tell you this, Leica glass is sweet, and the sensor alignment for aiming is very precise. They range very well in bright conditions.
The Sig ranges very well too, but feels just a hair behind the Leica when the sun is bright...usually I get it on the Leica in a couple tries....the Sig it takes a couple more...but ultimately it reads it. But that is somewhat subjective...conditions and targets really make a difference. They are close enough that sometimes I can readit with the Sig, but it takes a bit to get it with the Leica...so it's not absolutely clear. But that BDX system for hunting, if you are using the scope as well...very very fast. My son used it in January to kill 3 Aoudad rams at different distances in very short order. Would have had to dial for all three shots and so probably would not have gotten the last two off, but with the BDX system, range...fire. Pretty cool so far.
All that said, Leica RF's have the nicest glass and sure ranging. They are refined after their decades of experience building RF technology.
Sig tends to be bleeding edge in terms what their RF's can do. So ballistic solutions, connectivity etc. These things make quite a difference in how you use the RF...your workflow, and Sig has these figured out really well.
In terms of ranging, it depends on which RF's you are considering. Ranging in canyons at days end, my Leica 2800 could range a hair farther than my Leica 2700. My Sig 2400 BDX hit the exact same distance as my 2700, albeit it was harder to do as the Leica's sensor alignment is better. However, on a 12" cardboard target, under perfect conditions, my Leica's beat my 2400...again, it could be due to Leica's better aligned sensor such that it's easier to aim, but I think the Leica's just are better at reading those kinds of targets.
However, in rain, my Sig beat my Leicas once it got heavy.
And then there is the 3000 BDX, which so far is pounding all of them.
In your price range, between the Sigs and Leicas, I think you are limited to the Leica 2400, which lacks ballistic functions, and perhaps the 2200 BDX, which lacks some features of the 2400 BDX, but does have internal ballistics to 800 yards.
I'll tell you this, Leica glass is sweet, and the sensor alignment for aiming is very precise. They range very well in bright conditions.
The Sig ranges very well too, but feels just a hair behind the Leica when the sun is bright...usually I get it on the Leica in a couple tries....the Sig it takes a couple more...but ultimately it reads it. But that is somewhat subjective...conditions and targets really make a difference. They are close enough that sometimes I can readit with the Sig, but it takes a bit to get it with the Leica...so it's not absolutely clear. But that BDX system for hunting, if you are using the scope as well...very very fast. My son used it in January to kill 3 Aoudad rams at different distances in very short order. Would have had to dial for all three shots and so probably would not have gotten the last two off, but with the BDX system, range...fire. Pretty cool so far.
whirlwindjml
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Wow..their getting to be common as calculators....thats a great deal .
Just an FYI, on the 2k....you cannot use a custom curve for the ballistics. You have to choose from one of the presets. Depending on how far you want to shoot and how close your actual ballistics match one of their curves, YMMV as to how far you can trust the solution to.
Leica first implemented the ability to use a custom curve in a CRF in the 2700. With the release of the 2800, you might be able to find a 2700 in your price range.
Leica first implemented the ability to use a custom curve in a CRF in the 2700. With the release of the 2800, you might be able to find a 2700 in your price range.
fmajor
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Is $399 a good deal on the 2k?
Is the 2400, for another $100 a better deal (keeping to the OPs question <$600)?
Is the 2400, for another $100 a better deal (keeping to the OPs question <$600)?
Idaho5r
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Recently I picked up the Leica 2400R. Got it from Sport Optics... Doesn't have all the Bells & Whistles, but it's a great rangefinder!!!!! I'm very happy with it! Idaho-45
