Why is it that Savage can build a more accurate rifle than Remington, Winchester, Weatherby, Cooper, etc. And at a lower price ! Is it the action or barrel quality? Bedding? Reading through online posts many are shooting 0.25 to 0.50 moa even at longer ranges. Just curious.
Savage accuracy
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You're going to give someone a heart attack with that kind of statement.
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gun)I have 3 Savages. AXIS 22-250, AXIS 7MM-08 and a Savage Trophy Hunter in 300 winmag, I love them all. all 3 are giving me excellent accuracy. The only thing I didn't like about the 2 AXIS rifles was the triggers, they both had 8lbs trigger pulls. After a little work I got them down to 3lbs and they are great shooters. Both those rifles were bought before they started putting the accu-triggers in the AXIS II. gun)
jpd676
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Savage has a philosophy of accuracy over everything else. They have top notch equipment and do build good barrels. The barrel nut is ugly but helps keep costs down. The floating bolt head helps with out of the box accuracy. They just make good rifles.
FearNoWind
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You're going to give someone a heart attack with that kind of statement.
Wait for it!
By what standard do you find Savage more accurate than Remington? I've been shooting Remington rifles for fifty years and often score higher than the Savage shooting competitor next to me. Is his rifle inferior or is he just not as good with his Savage as I am with my Remington? You've gotta be kidding ............
If that statement was an April Fools joke it's three days late.
gohring3006
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I totally agree, Savage will make your hard earned dollar go alot farther, if you're a working man and want a no frills working rifle. Then get a Savage. And BTW the Axis is all things Savage without the accutrigger, with some work you can get the trigger to about 3 to 3.5 lbs mine will shoot sub moa and its only pillar bedded wit a very flimsy stock. I have a TC Venture that Is an absolute tack driver that does not seem mind what I load in it. But after getting my Savage 10 .243 I bought two more and won't buy another brand..
By what standard do you find Savage more accurate than Remington? I've been shooting Remington rifles for fifty years and often score higher than the Savage shooting competitor next to me. Is his rifle inferior or is he just not as good with his Savage as I am with my Remington? You've gotta be kidding ............
If that statement was an April Fools joke it's three days late.
Why are you asking me, I'm not the one that made the statement nor it is a joke, April or not?
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gohring3006
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So you have been competing for fifty years with bone stock Remington rifles? With nothing done to it by a smith?By what standard do you find Savage more accurate than Remington? I've been shooting Remington rifles for fifty years and often score higher than the Savage shooting competitor next to me. Is his rifle inferior or is he just not as good with his Savage as I am with my Remington? You've gotta be kidding ............
If that statement was an April Fools joke it's three days late.
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Mikecr
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How does an extra part keep costs down?
The barrel nut provides better thread engagement. Think racing engines & studs-vs- bolts.
RonS
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By what standard do you find Savage more accurate than Remington? I've been shooting Remington rifles for fifty years and often score higher than the Savage shooting competitor next to me. Is his rifle inferior or is he just not as good with his Savage as I am with my Remington? You've gotta be kidding ............
If that statement was an April Fools joke it's three days late.
By everybody's standard. That standard is out of the box MOA. I have not been able to get any Remington to shoot better than 1 MOA out of the box. Most are worse than that. I sent a Remington 700 back to the factory after replacing the stock, trigger, bedding the action, lapping the barrel and recrowning the barrel. It would shoot 3/4 to 1 MOA occasionally with some loads after 6 months of development of the rifle and the loads. Not good enough for F Class competition. They sent it back with a sample target and a note saying that they'd lapped the barrel (again). The sample target was 1.5 MOA. Within their spec. That rifle went down the road the day I got it back.
Meanwhile I picked up a used Savage LRP in 6.5 Creedmoor. With factory ammo it shot 1/3 MOA. After a little load development I've got it down to 1/4 MOA. I was so impressed that I picked up another used Savage. A BVSS in 223 for mid-range F Class (300-600 yards). That rifle is shooting 1/2 MOA or less on a good day and I haven't finished load development. I've been so impressed with their accuracy that I then picked up a BA-110 in 338 Lapua. Again, another 1/2 MOA rifle.
Granted, you could drop 1500-2000 into a Remington (new stock, trued and bedded action, trigger replacement, custom barrel...) and it will shoot with the Savage but why? At half the price you can get that out of the box.
I have participate in 200/300 yards competitive eggs shoots. Most of my time competing with a Remington Milspec 308, more recently a Savage LRP in 260. For the last 6 years or so Savage rifles have won and placed more than all other brands combined in the factory stock class where only a replacement trigger is allowed. Because of this, a separate class was created called semi custom just to give the others a chance at competing. At least based on my observation of several years, lots of shooters, and different rifles, there is certainly some credence with the claim of accuracy. Living in Massachusetts, where Savage is based, our club had the opportunity to get a special tour of the plant and a walk through of the manufacturing process. Ron Coburn, the former CEO, is an avid sportsman and shooter, as is most of his management team. Much more like one of us than a Wall Street suit, he made it his prime ambition to produce the most accurate production rifle an affordable price. Based on first hand observation, I think there are two factors. First, the design(accutrigger, floating bolt head, etc), and careful control of the tooling specs. Second, very skilled production workers that incorporate a great deal of hand fitting, and take great pride in their work. I don't think there is any magic but when you put the two together, the end product has proven successful.
ZSteinle
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I have been slowly replacing my remington rifles (mostly semi custom rifles, no factory ones) with savage rifles for a few reasons. They are inexpensive, they shoot amazing, you dont need to do anything to them to get them to shot, if you want to change something on it like the bolt handle or barrel or even change caliblers that requires a different sized bolt head its very simple and can be done in my reloading room with simple hand tools, and I can order a barrel online and slap it on in 15 minutes and be ready to go to the range.
