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<blockquote data-quote="aspenbugle" data-source="post: 672209" data-attributes="member: 6481"><p>Good posts. I can vouch "eye" witness testimony on the glass - the Nightforce is not as good as Zeiss/Swaro (not talking the cheap Zeiss, 1" tube "American" scopes). I have a nice Swarovski scope and bought the NF for another gun - got bored/curious in the off-season and had them out several times in real low light mounted side-by-side. The Swaro was noticably better - brighter, more crisp and clear - not massively better, but noticeable to my eye. Even had the wife look without here knowing which was which or why and she agreed. As many posted - pros and cons. NF has excellent adjustments, toughness etc. making it a great LR scope, it just doesn't match the fine European glass. </p><p></p><p>I agree JRSolocam - NF fits bill for 95% of LRH. I will say, there is still that 5% - which is what made me buy my Swaro originally. It's near the end of shooting light, I'm on the backside of a mountain (East side with sun going down in West), I have a herd of elk at 350 yards below in the broken timber, several branch-anterlered bulls. (Many Colorado areas require 4 points to a side or a 5" brow tine to make a bull legal.) I had a Leoupold VARXII, my brother with me had a VARXIII - even using his, we couldn't figure which, if any were legal...close, but maddening, especially when those opportunities were sparse. Then and there I decided the extra $ for a Swaro would have been worth it (especially when spread out over many years). Most times now, I have more light, and any reasonable scope would work, but when trying to resolve antler points in the shadows when you have an easy shot, the best glass can make a difference. We had plenty of magnification.</p><p></p><p>If you have the coin, I guess the best of both worlds is a Schmidt and Bender. If not, I'd probably go with a Swaro/Zeiss on my walking hunting rifle (if enough $) and the NF on the LRH rig. My $.02</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aspenbugle, post: 672209, member: 6481"] Good posts. I can vouch "eye" witness testimony on the glass - the Nightforce is not as good as Zeiss/Swaro (not talking the cheap Zeiss, 1" tube "American" scopes). I have a nice Swarovski scope and bought the NF for another gun - got bored/curious in the off-season and had them out several times in real low light mounted side-by-side. The Swaro was noticably better - brighter, more crisp and clear - not massively better, but noticeable to my eye. Even had the wife look without here knowing which was which or why and she agreed. As many posted - pros and cons. NF has excellent adjustments, toughness etc. making it a great LR scope, it just doesn't match the fine European glass. I agree JRSolocam - NF fits bill for 95% of LRH. I will say, there is still that 5% - which is what made me buy my Swaro originally. It's near the end of shooting light, I'm on the backside of a mountain (East side with sun going down in West), I have a herd of elk at 350 yards below in the broken timber, several branch-anterlered bulls. (Many Colorado areas require 4 points to a side or a 5" brow tine to make a bull legal.) I had a Leoupold VARXII, my brother with me had a VARXIII - even using his, we couldn't figure which, if any were legal...close, but maddening, especially when those opportunities were sparse. Then and there I decided the extra $ for a Swaro would have been worth it (especially when spread out over many years). Most times now, I have more light, and any reasonable scope would work, but when trying to resolve antler points in the shadows when you have an easy shot, the best glass can make a difference. We had plenty of magnification. If you have the coin, I guess the best of both worlds is a Schmidt and Bender. If not, I'd probably go with a Swaro/Zeiss on my walking hunting rifle (if enough $) and the NF on the LRH rig. My $.02 [/QUOTE]
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