Zeiss Rapid Reticle?

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by RLA, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. RLA

    RLA Well-Known Member

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    Wondering if anyone has seen or used this reticle in a Ziess? Thinking about getting one in a 4.5 x 14 by 50 in the RR 800. My main concern is how thick the reticle is, in the pic it looks very thin almost to thin.
     
  2. Alycidon

    Alycidon Active Member

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    Might also be an idea to check the click values, Ziess Germany are 1 cm per click. Might be a bit coarse for what you had in mind. Conquest models are assembled for the US market only, I think by Meopta. Rapid is limited to Conquest at present, despite asking we cannot get any response from Ziess GB as to when and if we might see Rapid in Europe.

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  3. chadcd

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    .20" @ 100 yds (this is for the RZ 1000)

    *I think the RZ 800 is .350"(same as the RZ600), will double check

    Chad
     
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  4. woods

    woods Well-Known Member

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    Not too thin. The reticle and the lower bars are jet black and very well defined. I love mine. I got the 4.5x14x44.

    You don't have to worry about the click adjustments since it is an internal reticle.
     
  5. RLA

    RLA Well-Known Member

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    Woods, Have you shot this reticle at long range on game?
     
  6. G-gear

    G-gear Well-Known Member

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    Zeiss Rapid Z 800 & 1000 scopes for M1A .308
    'Been doing some hunting for the best scope for my Springfield M1A (M21).

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/i...hp/cPath/36_41

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    ZEISS RAPID Z 1000 RETICLE vs. RAPID Z 800 RETICLE
    Both are around $925
    And both are 4.5-14x50

    http://www.zeiss.de/C1256BCF0020BE5F/Contents-Frame/E34E4125AA548D6685256BCF0061320D

    Note: Please enter your information into our Rapid-Z Calculator to ensure that you make the best possible reticle selection
    based on your caliber, bullet, hunting conditions and location.

    According to their calculator for the Rapid Z 1000 (designed for the .308 Match bullets):
    This IS the value for .308, Sierra 168-gr. MK (BC =.462),
    Velocity: 2,550 fps,
    Elevation: 4,500 ft. ASL
    Temp: 80 degrees F

    The Rapid Z 1000
    With their calculator, and the scope power ring set to 11.87 (12 power):
    They say to zero dead-on at 500 yards with the Bar 5.
    At Bar 1 will impact at 154 yards (or zero at 154 yards with Bar 1).
    Bar 2 = 224
    Bar 3 = 316
    Bar 4 = 406
    Bar 5 = 500
    Bar 6 = 595
    Bar 7 = 692
    Bar 8 = 791
    Bar 9 = 892
    Bar 10 = 993
    This is seemingly unbeatable.

    Now, with the Rapid Z 800:
    With the M1A, same load, they say to put the power ring at 14 power.
    Sight in at 1.77" high @ 100 yards for a 200 yard zero (Crosshairs).
    Bar 2 will impact at 295 yards (unmarked bar)
    Bar 4 = 395
    Bar 5 = 495
    Bar 6 = 596
    Bar 7 = 698
    Bar 8 = 800

    I know it's not 1,000 - but rather versatile anyway...

    :rolleyes: So, I'm deciding on which to choose.
    More field of view at 12 power with the Z 1000, than 14x on the Z 800.
    And the Z 800 is intended for other calibers, but, look at what I found for the .308!

    Zeiss Rapid Z 1000
    Zeiss | 4.5-14x50 AO MC Conquest Riflescope | 52 14 90 9973

    Zeiss Rapid Z 800
    Zeiss 4.5-14x50 800



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  7. G-gear

    G-gear Well-Known Member

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    UPDATE

    'Been doing some hunting for the best scope for my Springfield M1A (M21).

    Springfield Armory Rifles

    gun)

    ZEISS RAPID Z 1000 RETICLE vs. RAPID Z 800 RETICLE
    Both are around $925
    And both are 4.5-14x50

    http://www.zeiss.de/C1256BCF0020BE5F/Contents-Frame/E34E4125AA548D6685256BCF0061320D

    Note: Please enter your information into our Rapid-Z Calculator to ensure that you make the best possible reticle selection
    based on your caliber, bullet, hunting conditions and location.

    According to their calculator for the Rapid Z 1000 (designed for the .308 Match bullets):
    This IS the value for .308, Sierra 168-gr. MK (BC =.462),
    Velocity: 2,550 fps,
    Elevation: 4,500 ft. ASL
    Temp: 80 degrees F

    The Rapid Z 1000
    With their calculator, and the scope power ring set to 11.87 (12 power):
    They say to zero dead-on at 500 yards with the Bar 5. (Bar 5 is the center crosshair.)
    At Bar 1 will impact at 154 yards (or zero at 154 yards with Bar 1).
    Bar 2 = 224 (Bars 1 - 4 are above the center crosshair Bar 5.)
    Bar 3 = 316
    Bar 4 = 406
    Bar 5 = 500
    Bar 6 = 595
    Bar 7 = 692
    Bar 8 = 791
    Bar 9 = 892
    Bar 10 = 993
    This is seemingly unbeatable.

    Now, with the Rapid Z 800:
    With the M1A, same load, they say to put the power ring at 14 power.
    Sight in at 1.77" high @ 100 yards for a 200 yard zero (Center Crosshairs).
    Bar 2 will impact at 295 yards (an unmarked bar). (All Bars are below the center crosshairs.)
    Bar 4 = 395
    Bar 5 = 495
    Bar 6 = 596
    Bar 7 = 698
    Bar 8 = 800

    I know it's not 1,000 - but rather versatile anyway...

    :rolleyes: So, I'm deciding on which to choose.
    More field of view at 12 power with the Z 1000, than 14x on the Z 800.
    And the Z 800 is intended for other calibers, but, look at what I found for the .308!

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    But, if you definitely need it backed-off at the lowest 4.5 power also, then the Z 800 will work for both close-quarter work and long-range. (What would the Z 1000 do at 4.5 power? - when it is set up for range at 12 power?)

    Maybe we can't have our cake, and eat it too. :D


    Zeiss Rapid Z 1000
    Zeiss | 4.5-14x50 AO MC Conquest Riflescope | 52 14 90 9973

    Zeiss Rapid Z 800
    Zeiss 4.5-14x50 800


    G-gear
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