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X-Bolt or Model 70?
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<blockquote data-quote="Buano" data-source="post: 577384" data-attributes="member: 21641"><p>There was a time 60-odd years ago when the Model 70 may have actually been the best there was, at least in the average American gun shop. It was generally what the "serious" riflemen turned to, yes it was <span style="font-size: 18px">THE</span> "rifleman"s rifle".</p><p></p><p>Now we have Sako 75s & 85, Savage rifles, and a dozen odd "semi-custom" guns that routinely outperform what the original Model 70 was capable of. We have the Browning A-Bolts & X-Bolts that have learned from the old Model 70 and the Weatherby Mark-V then added a few new twists to produce a very sweet factory gun.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, the Model 70 has been upgraded so a shooter is unlikely to get a face full of burnt powder if a case fails (something the original Model 70 was notorious for). </p><p></p><p>Both lines now offer all-weather versions with composite stocks. Both guns have triggers that leave "room for improvement", but both triggers are better than what was generally available anywhere 60 years ago. </p><p></p><p>Times have definitely changed. Guns have changed. I most definitely agree it's time to stop thinking in terms of what gun line was "the best" 30, 40 or 50 years ago when making recommendations for a modern gun-shop purchase, unless the person is shopping used firearms.</p><p></p><p>Today's Model 70 is a sweet gun that is likely to shoot a .75-1.5" group at 100 yards with good factory ammunition. Today's X-Bolt will likely shoot a .5"-1" group at 100 yards direct from the box. Yes, both models occasionally produce factory rifles that shoot 1-hole groups, but that is rare. Occasionally there is a Model 70 that won't shoot a 2" group without attention from a gunsmith. I've never heard of a Browning X-Bolt that wouldn't shoot a 1.5" group. Out of the box, an X-Bolt will likely outshoot a Model 70, while a fully customized Model 70 should shoot <u>at least</u> a 1/2" group that an X-Bolt is unlikely to beat. Stock, the X-Bolt is a better gun while the Model 70 <u>may become</u> a better gun with enough effort, time & money. Which is better for this man depends on whether the gun will stay stock or be "modified".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buano, post: 577384, member: 21641"] There was a time 60-odd years ago when the Model 70 may have actually been the best there was, at least in the average American gun shop. It was generally what the "serious" riflemen turned to, yes it was [SIZE="5"]THE[/SIZE] "rifleman"s rifle". Now we have Sako 75s & 85, Savage rifles, and a dozen odd "semi-custom" guns that routinely outperform what the original Model 70 was capable of. We have the Browning A-Bolts & X-Bolts that have learned from the old Model 70 and the Weatherby Mark-V then added a few new twists to produce a very sweet factory gun. At the same time, the Model 70 has been upgraded so a shooter is unlikely to get a face full of burnt powder if a case fails (something the original Model 70 was notorious for). Both lines now offer all-weather versions with composite stocks. Both guns have triggers that leave "room for improvement", but both triggers are better than what was generally available anywhere 60 years ago. Times have definitely changed. Guns have changed. I most definitely agree it's time to stop thinking in terms of what gun line was "the best" 30, 40 or 50 years ago when making recommendations for a modern gun-shop purchase, unless the person is shopping used firearms. Today's Model 70 is a sweet gun that is likely to shoot a .75-1.5" group at 100 yards with good factory ammunition. Today's X-Bolt will likely shoot a .5"-1" group at 100 yards direct from the box. Yes, both models occasionally produce factory rifles that shoot 1-hole groups, but that is rare. Occasionally there is a Model 70 that won't shoot a 2" group without attention from a gunsmith. I've never heard of a Browning X-Bolt that wouldn't shoot a 1.5" group. Out of the box, an X-Bolt will likely outshoot a Model 70, while a fully customized Model 70 should shoot [U]at least[/U] a 1/2" group that an X-Bolt is unlikely to beat. Stock, the X-Bolt is a better gun while the Model 70 [U]may become[/U] a better gun with enough effort, time & money. Which is better for this man depends on whether the gun will stay stock or be "modified". [/QUOTE]
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