Ok, I've had enough about the thorofare on the other threads. I was telling my wife about it today and she said your not getting any younger and need to go back. Just to see if anyone is interested in a hunt in there. I will swap my knowledge and expertise of the area for a horse. I have a friend who will rent me the horses and I can arrange the hunt. I can pick guys up at the airport or meet you in a vehicle. Have the horses ready at the trailhead ready for the hunt. A group chips in and rents me a horse and I will carry you in there. We all share the camp chores. It is as remote and beautiful a wilderness as anywhere you will ever see. We can hunt elk with a rifle during the rut. I am as good a caller as there is anywhere guaranteed. I am confident we will see elk and have a good time if you love true wilderness. It is very remote and you can not have a fear of grizzlies which you probably will see. They have actually learned to come out of the park to this area to feast on hunter kills. I have hunted grizzly country for thirty years and never had a problem but obviously some people do get ate every year. Typically they are doing something they shouldn't. If enough people are interested I am not against doing two groups. I love being in that country. If a group wanted I will take you through the entire country from the Cody side and bring you out below the south entrance of Yellowstone if you want the trip of your life. My wife will not mind a trip to Coldwater creek and the cowboy bar in jackson to bring the trailer over and pick us up. You will need to pay her diesel though. Fishing in there can be good. There are good places to hunt all through there. The late Gordon Eastman (Mike's Dad) showed me the country many years ago. He guided that country in the 60's and knew all that country around Jackson well including the Gros Ventre country and many others. He was the first guy I know of that brought wolves to NW Wyoming. But he kept his in a pen. I have hunted all through there mostly out of a backpack when I was younger. I have gone in Deer creek and came out Pacific creek on the other side more than once. Probably 50 miles through there. Non-residents need a general elk license by application. Your odds are good without a point. Usually you can spot a bull in there in the 300 class. Big 370 class bulls come out of there every year. Not many places that do not require a lot of points you can say that about. I am not concerned about anyone finding my spots because I am getting to old to hunt it much anymore and really just want to get in there one more time. Why, Like Gus on Lonesome Dove said, "because it's there". Also the fact that it is something you have got to do once to see this country and nobody is crazy enough to go back and do it again except true wilderness guys like me. To my knowledge it is the largest wilderness in the US outside of Alaska. Plenty of room to park your mule in that country. If anyone is interested PM me and I can answer any of your questions and see if we can work it out.