WTS APS full custom 375 RUM

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  1. jedlowe

    jedlowe Well-Known Member

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    I don't foresee myself going back to Africa in the near future, so I am putting my African rifle up for sale. Specs are as follows.

    375 Remington Ultra Mag built by Kirby Allen of Allen Precision Shooting
    --Lawton 7000 Receiver, right handed
    --Lawton 20 MOA Picatinney Rail
    --McMillan BDL Stock, 13.5" LOP, pillar bedded
    --Lilja #6 Contour Barrel, 24" long, 1-10 twist, fluted
    --Defensive Edge Muzzle Brake
    --Rifles Basix trigger tuned to 3.5 lbs.
    --HS Precision DM with one 3 round mag
    --All metal teflon coated black by Shawn Carlock at Defensive Edge

    The rifle has been on one African safari and is responsible for the demise of a mature Lion, Leopard, Cape Buffalo, and a host of plains game. It is quite simply a hammer and dispatched of each of these animals quickly and humanely. It would also make a nice bear, moose, or elk rifle that would put animals down with authority. The rifle has 150 rounds down the tube. It is in excellent shape and I can find no flaws on it anywhere. It is very well balanced, feeds flawlessly, and is pleasant to shoot with the DE muzzle brake. It is very accurate and fired even the big, round-nosed bullets at 3/4 MOA accuracy at 100 yards. Accuracy with the 260 grain Nosler Accubond is easily 1/2 MOA.

    Included with the rifle are a host of reloading components as outlined below.
    --RCBS Reloading Dies
    --130 A-Square 300 grain Dead Tough Bullets
    --50 A -Sqaure 300 grain Lion Load Bullets
    --50 A-Square Monolithic Solid Bullets
    --110 260 grain Nosler Accubond Bullets
    --24 Loaded rounds with the A-Sqaure Dead Tough Bullets
    --16 Loaded rounds with the A-Sqaure Monolithic Solids
    --10 Loaded rounds with 260 grain Nosler Accubonds
    --50 pieces of new in bag 375 RUM brass
    --58 pieces of twice fired brass

    If you add up the cost of all that lead and brass, you will see there is a lot of value there. All you need to do is put a scope on it, go to Africa, and shoot whatever you can afford!

    I am asking $3000 shipped for this entire package.

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  2. TDD

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    Could you please tell me the weight of the rifle? Also, what sort of velocity do you get withe the 260 grain Accubonds. Thanks.
     

  3. jedlowe

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    I will have to weigh it again, but my memory tells me around 8.5 lbs for the bare rifle. I was pushing the 260 Accubond at 3050 fps.
     
  4. Sendero_Man

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    that would be a great carry weight hunting rifle and one heck of a Long range shooter !

    nice rifle for sure !!!
     
  5. Buano

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    Where are you (and the rifle)?
     
  6. jedlowe

    jedlowe Well-Known Member

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    I am in northern Utah.
     
  7. TDD

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    I might be interested in the rifle. How can I contact you?
     
  8. jedlowe

    jedlowe Well-Known Member

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    PM sent, TDD.
     
  9. car2go4

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    i bought a APS 7mm from jed. he was exceellent to work with.

    everything was just as he said it would be.
     
  10. Buano

    Buano Well-Known Member

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    Jed,

    Any chance you have a APS full custom .338 RUM for sale?
     
  11. Sendero_Man

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    btt for great guy !
     
  12. TDD

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    A few more questions:
    1. In what year was the rifle built?
    2. I have never held a Lawton action in my hands. Some have posted on this forum that the action tolerances are too tight for a hunting rifle, and they have had grit and grime in the field bind them up. The custom gunsmiths on this forum today seem to prefer the BAT action. What were your field experiences with the action?
    3. What scope did you have mounted on it?
    4. Was this built as a dangerous game, close in rifle, or did you intend to utilize it for long range hunting?
    5. Did you leave the tripod off for African hunting?

    Like another poster, I would be more interested in a custom 338; however, this might be a nice option.
     
  13. jedlowe

    jedlowe Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I missed your phone call again, TDD. I was going to pm you a response to all of your questions but figured I might as well post it up here in case it answers questions for others.

    This rifle was built in 2007 by Kirby Allen as a full custom build. At the time, Kirby didn't have his Painkiller Muzzle Brakes and used Defensive Edge muzzle brakes. The brake was installed by Kirby. Shawn Carlock used to do all of Kirby's coating, so he was the one who teflon coated the rifle.

    If I were going up to shoot a big Yukon Moose, this would be my rifle of choice even over a big 338. In all likelihood, your shots will not be long range. I would guess they will be within 300 yards, probably a lot closer as in less than 100 yards. You will also most likely be shooting in the brushy stuff commonly associated with bogs. This rifle with the 260 grain Nosler Accubonds would be perfect for such a scenario. If you were to go with a 338 RUM or 338 Lapua with a high BC 338 bullet like a 300 SMK, even if you hit the slightest twig, you will experience drastic bullet tumbling and your bullet will not go where you want it to. The 375 RUM with the 260 Accubond will be a lot less susceptible to that. If you really want to punch through brush, you could even go with the 300 grain A-Square Dead Tough. With the way this rifle handles, and with the kinetic energy it would deliver, it is the perfect moose rifle.

    Even if you were to encounter a long distance shot situation, the 260 Accubond with a muzzle velocity of 3050-3100 fps and a BC around .473 is no slouch ballistically. With a 100 yard zero, you could get to 600 yards with about 11 MOA of elevation dial up. Supposing you had a 10 mph cross wind, you would need to dial about 3.5 MOA.

    Comparing this to a 338 Lapua with the 300 SMK at 2800 fps and a BC of .754 with a 100 yard zero at the same range of 600 yards, you would need to dial 11.5 MOA elevation and for a 10 mph crosswind you would need 2.5 MOA.

    So you can see, you don't really give much up to the 338 Lapua ballistically, and you gain a lot concerning knock down power, reliable bullet expansion, and brush-busting capabilities.

    I have never experienced any problems with the Lawton receivers binding up due to dust or anything. I would say they are slightly tighter than a Remington receiver, but not much. I would venture to say that you would never have an issue with the Lawton binding up any more than you would with any receiver. In reality, I have owned BAT actions, and they are much tighter than Lawtons. That being said, if you are somewhat careful, I don't think you would have issues with a BAT, Defiance, or any of your tight tolerance receivers either. On a moose hunt, you would just need to be careful to keep the bolt oiled if encountering wet conditions as I'm sure you will.

    The bipod pictured is a Harris model which mounts directly to the sling stud. If you were to take it off, you would find only a sling stud remaining. The only reason I pictured the rifle with the bipod is for convenience of taking the photo. It is actually not included in the sale. I always hunt with a Harris bipod on my rifles, but that is a personal choice. On your moose hunt, I would guess you would be shooting standing or kneeling with some shooting sticks -- much like hunting in Africa. I don't know whether a bipod would be very useful unless you could get above the bogs and shoot prone from longer distances.

    With the 24" barrel, I settled with a mild load that gave me 3050 fps with the 260 Accubond. Since I was using this load in Africa, I made sure I had plenty of margin due to possible temperature variability. I would think 3100+ fps would be possible without any pressure issues.

    I had this rifle set up with a US Optics SN3 1.8-10x44 scope and felt the setup was perfect. It didn't add much weight, is fairly compact, and is simply an indestructible scope. I think a Nightforce 2.5-10 would suit the rifle very well for a moose hunt as well.

    I hope that answers all of your questions. Like I said earlier, I can't think of a better rifle for your moose hunt, and I'm not just saying that to sell you the rifle. The black teflon coating would be another plus since it would reduce the chances of rusting the rifle out in the wet conditions I'm sure you would experience.

    Let me know if you have any additional questions. Also, feel free to try calling me again. I'm sure we can synch up one of these times!

    Best Regards,
    Jed
     
  14. jedlowe

    jedlowe Well-Known Member

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    I haven't ever tried them, but I would imagine the 350 SMK bullets would shoot very well in this rifle. That would make this rifle a very formidable long range rig with some serious knock down power.