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WTH is with these scope prices??
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<blockquote data-quote="SidecarFlip" data-source="post: 614042" data-attributes="member: 39764"><p>I was representing Ford Motor at the supplier and I can tell you without prejudice that your statement that Fords only buys from their friends is completely false. Fords deals with suppliers on a cost/quality/QS Certification in that order. All the automakers do but (I presume) but I don't presume with Fords because I know. I'm sure they would preferred to pay 25 cents each, however, there are a limited number of suppliers for some intrinsic parts and those suppliers set the bar for pricing. If that's unfair to Fords, I can't say, but what it is, it is.</p><p> </p><p>Capitalism is very much alive and well not only here, but worldwide. Inane regulatory standards notwithstanding. If it wasn't, scopes wouldm't cost what they do, cars, motorcycles, in fact any manufactured item and food too. It's supply and demand. When consumers demand an item, any item, suppliers can control the pricing. Thats how it works and has worked since this country was founded.</p><p> </p><p>Competition exists everywhere, in every business scenario. Is there one scope maker or are all the scope makers in collusion? I don't think so. There are many makers, offering a diverse line of optics, in all price and quality ranges. It just so happens we are discussing the high end of the spectrum here. There are still many, many choices out there under 200 bucks and many well over a grand. That, to me appears to be quite fair and very competitive.</p><p> </p><p>In other words, you get what you pay for, 200 or 2,000 bucks.</p><p> </p><p>I see no problem with that aspect.</p><p> </p><p>The American Consumer isn't stupid. Overpaid maybe in comparison to the rest of the world, but not stupid. Your President is working on that bit of unequality (being overpaid).....<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>Finally, Quality and cost are synonomus with each other and always have been. If you want a quality anything, you have to be willing to pony up the price. The cost of quality items has risen in lock step with the world economy and the devaluation of currency. It's a normal progression of manufactured items including food.</p><p> </p><p>Take a look at China and the importing of cheaper (low quality goods) into this country (and others). People whine about the China imports being of substandard quality, but have no issue purchasing them as evidenced by Wal-Mart and others making millions on imports. People flock to Wallyworld, Harbor Freight and many other retailers and scarf up the imported products, if, in fact they are lower quality or not. It's a <u>choice</u>, not a requirement.</p><p> </p><p>If you don't want to pay the price for quality, there are many optics out there that fall into the realm of Chinese imports, BSA, Leapers, Hawk and Tasco and others come to mind. The consumer choice is there, buy a quality optic with an iron-clad guarantee and pay the price, or buy cheaper. It's your choice and it certainly is all about Capitalism and free market enterprise.</p><p> </p><p>I've tried to explain how Capitalism works in relationship to the equipment we use. It's your choice, again, to purchase what you require at the price point you are comfortable with. However, don't expect the quality or the guarantee of a higher priced optic because it isn't there.</p><p> </p><p>I know what I require and I purchase it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SidecarFlip, post: 614042, member: 39764"] I was representing Ford Motor at the supplier and I can tell you without prejudice that your statement that Fords only buys from their friends is completely false. Fords deals with suppliers on a cost/quality/QS Certification in that order. All the automakers do but (I presume) but I don't presume with Fords because I know. I'm sure they would preferred to pay 25 cents each, however, there are a limited number of suppliers for some intrinsic parts and those suppliers set the bar for pricing. If that's unfair to Fords, I can't say, but what it is, it is. Capitalism is very much alive and well not only here, but worldwide. Inane regulatory standards notwithstanding. If it wasn't, scopes wouldm't cost what they do, cars, motorcycles, in fact any manufactured item and food too. It's supply and demand. When consumers demand an item, any item, suppliers can control the pricing. Thats how it works and has worked since this country was founded. Competition exists everywhere, in every business scenario. Is there one scope maker or are all the scope makers in collusion? I don't think so. There are many makers, offering a diverse line of optics, in all price and quality ranges. It just so happens we are discussing the high end of the spectrum here. There are still many, many choices out there under 200 bucks and many well over a grand. That, to me appears to be quite fair and very competitive. In other words, you get what you pay for, 200 or 2,000 bucks. I see no problem with that aspect. The American Consumer isn't stupid. Overpaid maybe in comparison to the rest of the world, but not stupid. Your President is working on that bit of unequality (being overpaid).....:) Finally, Quality and cost are synonomus with each other and always have been. If you want a quality anything, you have to be willing to pony up the price. The cost of quality items has risen in lock step with the world economy and the devaluation of currency. It's a normal progression of manufactured items including food. Take a look at China and the importing of cheaper (low quality goods) into this country (and others). People whine about the China imports being of substandard quality, but have no issue purchasing them as evidenced by Wal-Mart and others making millions on imports. People flock to Wallyworld, Harbor Freight and many other retailers and scarf up the imported products, if, in fact they are lower quality or not. It's a [U]choice[/U], not a requirement. If you don't want to pay the price for quality, there are many optics out there that fall into the realm of Chinese imports, BSA, Leapers, Hawk and Tasco and others come to mind. The consumer choice is there, buy a quality optic with an iron-clad guarantee and pay the price, or buy cheaper. It's your choice and it certainly is all about Capitalism and free market enterprise. I've tried to explain how Capitalism works in relationship to the equipment we use. It's your choice, again, to purchase what you require at the price point you are comfortable with. However, don't expect the quality or the guarantee of a higher priced optic because it isn't there. I know what I require and I purchase it. [/QUOTE]
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