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<blockquote data-quote="Muddyboots" data-source="post: 1852035" data-attributes="member: 63925"><p>So our society is willing to accept almost 80K flu deaths and up to 50M flu illnesses each year. The following is from CDC website:</p><p><em>"CDC estimates that flu has resulted in between 9.3 million and 49 million illnesses each year in the United States since 2010. " "CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2017-2018, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of <strong><u>79,000 (during 2017-2018)</u></strong>. The model used to estimate flu-associated deaths uses a ratio of deaths-to-hospitalizations in order to estimate the total flu-related deaths during a season. "</em></p><p><em>"<strong>Why is it difficult to know exactly how many people die from flu?</strong></em></p><p><em>There are several factors that make it difficult to determine accurate numbers of deaths caused by flu regardless of reporting. Some of the challenges in counting flu associated deaths include the following:</em></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>the sheer volume of deaths to be counted;</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>the lack of testing (not everyone that dies with an influenza-like illness is tested for influenza);</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>and the different coding of deaths (influenza-associated deaths often are a result of complications secondary to underlying medical problems, and this may be difficult to sort out)."</em></li> </ul><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2018-2019.htm" target="_blank">CDC-Flu</a></p><p></p><p>SO what is the number of deaths and illnesses we are willing to accept from this virus going forward? If this virus kills 80K people and presents illness in another 50M people, the media will go nuts and blame everybody for it but the <u><strong>crickets are chirping</strong></u> with 80K flu deaths and 50M flu illnesses.</p><p></p><p>I am not doubting the potential pathogenicity of the Coronavirus but I am asking why have we accepted the effect of the flu without even a blink of the eye? If we performed the same level of Coronoavirus containment for the flu, would we have the level of severity that is common and accepted?</p><p></p><p>Let's hope the Coronavirus becomes fully contained and is a one trick pony "one and done" scenario going forward. I do believe the containment actions need to be taken until we TRULY understand the pathogenicity of the Coronavirus, means to identify those who have it, standardized protocols to address containment and hopefully a vaccine. Understand, a vaccine is not a solution otherwise the flu wouldn't be rampant and deadly. Little more than 52% of the total population get a flu shot each year according to the CDC if you assume their numbers of 171M getting a shot is about half our 327M population so any vaccine for the Coronavirus will still not be effective unless we can get better vaccination results.</p><p></p><p>On another note, I just realized this morning I have the most effective means to kill the Coronavirus in my basement already put away until next hunting season. OZONICS! I may pull it out and put the mail in a sealed tub with it which will alleviate the fears with my wife.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Muddyboots, post: 1852035, member: 63925"] So our society is willing to accept almost 80K flu deaths and up to 50M flu illnesses each year. The following is from CDC website: [I]"CDC estimates that flu has resulted in between 9.3 million and 49 million illnesses each year in the United States since 2010. " "CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2017-2018, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of [B][U]79,000 (during 2017-2018)[/U][/B]. The model used to estimate flu-associated deaths uses a ratio of deaths-to-hospitalizations in order to estimate the total flu-related deaths during a season. " "[B]Why is it difficult to know exactly how many people die from flu?[/B] There are several factors that make it difficult to determine accurate numbers of deaths caused by flu regardless of reporting. Some of the challenges in counting flu associated deaths include the following:[/I] [LIST] [*][I]the sheer volume of deaths to be counted;[/I] [*][I]the lack of testing (not everyone that dies with an influenza-like illness is tested for influenza);[/I] [*][I]and the different coding of deaths (influenza-associated deaths often are a result of complications secondary to underlying medical problems, and this may be difficult to sort out)."[/I] [/LIST] [URL='https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2018-2019.htm']CDC-Flu[/URL] SO what is the number of deaths and illnesses we are willing to accept from this virus going forward? If this virus kills 80K people and presents illness in another 50M people, the media will go nuts and blame everybody for it but the [U][B]crickets are chirping[/B][/U] with 80K flu deaths and 50M flu illnesses. I am not doubting the potential pathogenicity of the Coronavirus but I am asking why have we accepted the effect of the flu without even a blink of the eye? If we performed the same level of Coronoavirus containment for the flu, would we have the level of severity that is common and accepted? Let's hope the Coronavirus becomes fully contained and is a one trick pony "one and done" scenario going forward. I do believe the containment actions need to be taken until we TRULY understand the pathogenicity of the Coronavirus, means to identify those who have it, standardized protocols to address containment and hopefully a vaccine. Understand, a vaccine is not a solution otherwise the flu wouldn't be rampant and deadly. Little more than 52% of the total population get a flu shot each year according to the CDC if you assume their numbers of 171M getting a shot is about half our 327M population so any vaccine for the Coronavirus will still not be effective unless we can get better vaccination results. On another note, I just realized this morning I have the most effective means to kill the Coronavirus in my basement already put away until next hunting season. OZONICS! I may pull it out and put the mail in a sealed tub with it which will alleviate the fears with my wife..... [/QUOTE]
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