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Wildcat Bullets Update
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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 895308" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Yes, the Matrix bullets are doing very well but I did run into some issues with them in my 270 AM. I was very hopeful that the 165 and 175 gr versions in 270 would bring back new life into my old work horse. The 165s actually did better then the 175s if I kept velocity below 3300 fps. Above that and the velocity ripped them apart. The 175s came apart at all velocity levels.</p><p> </p><p> TO BE FAIR though, I shot these out of a 1-8 twist 3 groove barrel. I suspect a 1-9 twist barrel with a land design that produced between 17-19% baring surface compression would really make a huge difference.</p><p> </p><p> When I get a chance to take a breath, I will test this by ordering a custom barrel made to these specs. My 7mm AM had similar performance with its original 3 groove rifling design by Lilja. That design is great for barrel life, terrible for thin jacketed, long, heavy match bullets driven to high velocity.</p><p> </p><p> When I figured out the baring surface compression issue and kept it to less then 18% I had no issues at all with the 200 gr ULD RBBT. The old 200 gr ULD RBBTs were made off the old berger J-4 jackets which I believe the matrix bullets are also made with so I suspect most of the problems I have had are more to do with the barrels rifling design then anything else.</p><p> </p><p> I have had a lot of customers using the matrix bullets in lesser 270 chamberings I have built for them and their results have been very good.</p><p> </p><p> The new berger bullets are also holding up to top end velocity levels as well. The OTMs have been proving great for my larger wildcats and the elite hunters have been great for more conventional velocity levels. </p><p> </p><p> We certainly have some good companies looking out for us but its always sad to loose a company making a line of long range bullets, we do not have ALOT to choose from, need more, not less choices.</p><p> </p><p> Again, I do not know all the details concerning Wildcat Bullets new owners so do not want to pass judgement, but it is sad they are not producing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 895308, member: 10"] Yes, the Matrix bullets are doing very well but I did run into some issues with them in my 270 AM. I was very hopeful that the 165 and 175 gr versions in 270 would bring back new life into my old work horse. The 165s actually did better then the 175s if I kept velocity below 3300 fps. Above that and the velocity ripped them apart. The 175s came apart at all velocity levels. TO BE FAIR though, I shot these out of a 1-8 twist 3 groove barrel. I suspect a 1-9 twist barrel with a land design that produced between 17-19% baring surface compression would really make a huge difference. When I get a chance to take a breath, I will test this by ordering a custom barrel made to these specs. My 7mm AM had similar performance with its original 3 groove rifling design by Lilja. That design is great for barrel life, terrible for thin jacketed, long, heavy match bullets driven to high velocity. When I figured out the baring surface compression issue and kept it to less then 18% I had no issues at all with the 200 gr ULD RBBT. The old 200 gr ULD RBBTs were made off the old berger J-4 jackets which I believe the matrix bullets are also made with so I suspect most of the problems I have had are more to do with the barrels rifling design then anything else. I have had a lot of customers using the matrix bullets in lesser 270 chamberings I have built for them and their results have been very good. The new berger bullets are also holding up to top end velocity levels as well. The OTMs have been proving great for my larger wildcats and the elite hunters have been great for more conventional velocity levels. We certainly have some good companies looking out for us but its always sad to loose a company making a line of long range bullets, we do not have ALOT to choose from, need more, not less choices. Again, I do not know all the details concerning Wildcat Bullets new owners so do not want to pass judgement, but it is sad they are not producing. [/QUOTE]
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